HELP! please evaluate my daughters swing

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Jun 8, 2016
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For me the 'whip' is occurring into/through impact ... at that point the barrel has already been 'turned'.

whip is a verb in this context unless you implying that the bat turns into one at/through impact. That is the problem I have...using the phrase "the whip" makes
no sense if you are using whip as a verb. So you are saying you are only "whipping" the bat into/through contact?
 
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Jul 16, 2013
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FP, I don't disagree with anything you've written above.

Help me understand how WW's comment of "‘Turn the barrel’ is commitment from/at the top." contradicts what you've written.

My take is that WW is implying that someone using TTB swings blindly, with no care for pitch location. That somehow a hitter will magically make contact swinging that way. I disagree with those implications. At least that is not how I use TTB. The key is to read as much information as humanly possible before making that commitment. On the opposite end of things, I have seen some people refer to "whip" incorrectly as well. At least in my opinion... I don't have access to my gifs right now because I am at work, but I have long used the reference of hitting the ball "on the right hand side of your body" (for a right handed hitter). A hitter does not want their hands to cross in front of their chest before the barrel turns to the ball. The hands should remain on "the right side of the body" as long as possible. Obviously this will vary some based on pitch location. An inside pitch requires slightly different hand location.

Once I get home I will add a clip or two to this post... And perhaps some more clarity.
 
Oct 13, 2014
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whip is a verb in this context unless you implying that the bat turns into one at/through impact. That is the problem I have...using the phrase "the whip" makes
no sense if you are using whip as a verb. So you are saying you are only "whipping" the bat into/through contact?

It really has nothing to do with the object. It has to do with ‘actions’ imparted on said object. You whip the barrel or turn the barrel. The hands actions are what in play here.

Just like ‘push’ or ‘hammer’ or ‘throw’ the barrel.
 
Jun 17, 2009
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whip is a verb in this context unless you implying that the bat turns into one at/through impact. That is the problem I have...using the phrase "the whip" makes
no sense if you are using whip as a verb. So you are saying you are only "whipping" the bat into/through contact?

Bold above ... for me the bat is whipped into/through impact.
 
Oct 13, 2014
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South Cali
This looks like a lot of barrel turning and early bat speed to me...


DiCarlo, is currently batting .429 and leads in HRs (18).

Many of LSU's hitters are displaying similar mechanics/intents. Lots of comments have been made about the significant improvement in batting averages for the team.


Shes a stud. But she has a hand path. No turn the barrel. Turn the barrel has always meant ‘rearward’ behind ones self. I don’t see that in Dicarlo. If I remember correctly ‘ bat speed immediately at go when the front foot touches’ correct? Seems like Dicarlo creates a swing direction(hand path first)
 
Jun 17, 2009
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My take is that WW is implying that someone using TTB swings blindly, with no care for pitch location. That somehow a hitter will magically make contact swinging that way. I disagree with those implications. At least that is not how I use TTB. The key is to read as much information as humanly possible before making that commitment. On the opposite end of things, I have seen some people refer to "whip" incorrectly as well. At least in my opinion... I don't have access to my gifs right now because I am at work, but I have long used the reference of hitting the ball "on the right hand side of your body" (for a right handed hitter). A hitter does not want their hands to cross in front of their chest before the barrel turns to the ball. The hands should remain on "the right side of the body" as long as possible. Obviously this will vary some based on pitch location. An inside pitch requires slightly different hand location.

Once I get home I will add a clip or two to this post... And perhaps some more clarity.

Thank you FP.

While I don't wish to speak for WW, my concern with a high emphasis on using the forearms/hands as the sole portion of the swing is that it would occur outside of a good/healthy sequence.

Don't get me wrong ... I'm all for the hands kicking in at 100% ... but not without the 'body/torso' being used to generate rotational energy. In fact, I'm perfectly okay with the body/torso operating at an 80-to-85% effort level, and the hands/forearms working at 100% ... so yes, I'm into the hands/forearms ... but the sequence for me is that the hands/forearms should not short-cut the hips/torso-engine.
 

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