I looked at all of the websites that analyze swings that you all referred to. I really liked that motion analysis of A-Rod. I can see where some of you think hips and some of you see back foot push. However, I must agree somewhat with the push happening first. It looks to me like when the pros press off their back foot it makes the hips turn... not vice versa. Maybe I am looking at something wrong... but that is what I see. Also, when I look at the motion analysis and right view pro videos vs the Epstein videos... the swings look entirely different.