Revisit: Door-knocker-knuckle grip and back elbow position

[SBFAMILY]

What Len posted is what research has proven in the lab by Don Slaught at UCLA. Video proved it along with bat speed checked in the lab. It improved bat speed around 5%.

 

[BadMonkeys]

What Len posted is what research has proven in the lab by Don Slaught at UCLA. Video proved it along with bat speed checked in the lab. It improved bat speed around 5%.

Could you clarify what you mean? I'm not sure I understand what you are suggesting.

 

[Lenski]

Nice extensive research.... Now they all just need to get the little finger under the knob... JMHO

I don't quite understand this post. There wasn't anything extensive about it. I knew it. I guess the pics don't fit into your "Perfect" little hitting world? It's all good PC, I ain't mad........

You want some extra bat "whip" through the zone?? Get those knuckles from staggered at stance to alignment at contact.

 

[CoogansBluff]

Get those knuckles from staggered at stance to alignment at contact.

How does this happen? Do you feel the hands move/slide on the handle, or is it a case of the right hand applying a little clockwise pressure (while the left hand pressures counterclockwise) during the swing? Like wringing out a towel during the swing?

 

[Lenski]

How does this happen? Do you feel the hands move/slide on the handle, or is it a case of the right hand applying a little clockwise pressure (while the left hand pressures counterclockwise) during the swing? Like wringing out a towel during the swing?

You relax the grip on the bat, get some shoulder tilt, clear the ribcage with the front elbow, and the rest takes care of itself.

 

[BadMonkeys]

I don't quite understand this post. There wasn't anything extensive about it. I knew it. I guess the pics don't fit into your "Perfect" little hitting world? It's all good PC, I ain't mad........

You want some extra bat "whip" through the zone?? Get those knuckles from staggered at stance to alignment at contact.

From the first images you posted 2 batters looked to get their middle knuckles close to being lined up and two did not. Did Konerko and Griffey not get that "extra bat whip"?

I'm wondering, does the knuckle alignment at contact naturally change and turn with the wrist angle/unhinging of the wrists/ulnar deviation or whatever related terms are used?

 

[RubberBiscuit]

I think we would all agree palms up/down at contact is ideal right?

So couldn't we also conclude that the easiest way to get to this ideal contact configuration is to start with opposing palms in the first place?

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

Ted Williams: "To hit the ball to the best advantage, I recommend an extremely firm grip, the pressure applied by the fingers and not against the palms."

Performed with the top hand, gripping the barrel in the fingers, and not in the palm, allows the top hand hinging action to take place efficiently.

 

[PEPPERS]

Have the grip way out in the finger tips – not in the palm, align door knocking knuckles, some batting gloves have stripes on knuckles to help line up the knuckles.

Door knocking knuckles lined up = better bat control - helps a quick release of the bat head and extension.

Arms are in an upside down V as elbows resting on a dinner table, make a bicep for where the hands are to go at the starting point.

Thanks, Peppers. This instruction is common, and it's what is being advised for my daughter. So I certainly understand it's a widely held notion, and I'm not saying it's wrong. But seems to me that if you're trying to throw the barrel, then the ''door knocking knuckles lined up'' grip (and the position of the forearms if the back elbow doesn't point backward during the load) restricts this effort.

I'm pretty sure that this guy is not heeding Alabama's advice on this issue:

I posted what we were told at the clinic and AL has one of the top hitting teams in the SEC, Howard/Hitter posted on here some time ago that splinting the knuckles has proven to give the highest bat speed.

I don’t like the chicken wing (as Alabama coaches called it). The main thing IMO is you want you hitters to be palm up and palm down at contact.

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

The top hand being palm-up, and in a state of unhinging, is what is important to me going through contact.