Biological Male Wins NCAA Women’s Track Championship

[GunnerShotgun]

Almost everyone in this thread sounds like an uneducated moron.

I would suggest that everyone start with the NCAA handbook on transgender athletes.

 

[Gtrips07]

So just because the NCAA publishes guidelines means that everyone has to agree with what is taking place?

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[Gtrips07]

Track is the one sport where you can truly just compete against yourself e.g. you win if you beat your previous PR. While I don't agree that somebody who is biologically a male should be able to compete against females (although I think they do require that they reduce their testosterone levels to female levels for a year at least before they can compete..there isn't a trophy in the world big enough for me to willingly do that..) it is sort of hypocritical for people to come on DFP and say softball should be about development, you shouldn't worry about plastic trophies, etc. and then come and complain about this.

So why not just have combined sports? That would solve the problem.

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[_MIA_]

So why not just have combined sports? That would solve the problem.

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What part of

While I don't agree that somebody who is biologically a male should be able to compete against females

did you not understand. I was just calling out what I see as hypocrisy for some people as it relates to sports/competition when it comes to something they don't agree with due to a possible moral/religious/political belief. The idea that many people are going to do this to gain an advantage is ludicrous. Even in this day and age, a transgendered life is not going to be free of ridicule and contempt and the idea that winning some track meets will outweigh all of that is silly.

 

[fuzzy2651]

Almost everyone in this thread sounds like an uneducated moron.

I would suggest that everyone start with the NCAA handbook on transgender athletes.

I'm pretty sure I'm spun up fairly well on genetics and a male is has XY chromosomes and a female has XX. Unless that changes, a male is a male and a female is a female.

Edit: Why are people allowed to change their sex or perceived sex or whatever, but they can't change their age? What if I feel older or younger? I should be able to change my age right?

 

[Gtrips07]

What part of

did you not understand. I was just calling out what I see as hypocrisy for some people as it relates to sports/competition when it comes to something they don't agree with due to a possible moral/religious/political belief. The idea that many people are going to do this to gain an advantage is ludicrous. Even in this day and age, a transgendered life is not going to be free of ridicule and contempt and the idea that winning some track meets will outweigh all of that is silly.

Do you know why they disagree? Sounds like a straw man..

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Do you know why they disagree? Sounds like a straw man..

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No, that is why I said possible. It is a discussion board, not a mathematical journal, I am allowed to give opinions without proof.

So I take it you have no issues with people identifying as transgendered and your only complaint is from a pure competitive perspective? If everybody posting was taking that view, how come we don't see more "So unfair, a 5'6" 150 lb post-pubescent 11 YO just struck out every single one of our 10U batters" posts?

 

[Greatdaytobeawildcat]

If you have an afternoon to kill, this piece by Amby Burfoot (Boston Marathon winner) covers a LOT of ground on the subject (including some basic biology, some nuanced biology, competitive women's thoughts, and a well reasoned approach to the controversy.

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/04/the-whole-world-is-watching-caster-semenya-vs-iaaf/

 

[cvsoftball]

Why have you provided a photo of Dennis Rodman?

Yeah this is wrong.

well, let's say World Peace wanted to join the WNBA.

 

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well, let's say World Peace wanted to join the WNBA.

Ron Artest cross-dressed too? Good to know