The Kelly Barnhill Thread

[GunnerShotgun]

I don't think it's as hard to emulate as you are making it out to be. The question what are the gains and loses (is it worth it).

 

[Swim Coach]

I don't think it's as hard to emulate as you are making it out to be. The question what are the gains and loses (is it worth it).

I'd submit that Barnhill thinks it's worth it or why else would she be doing it? Just to drive a bunch of softball junkies nuts for 60 pages of a thread?

 

[riseball]

Not to put words in his mouth but somewhere I think Riseball mentioned his DD pitched against her and said there was no drag marks at all when she came back out for her half of the innings. If I am wrong someone will surely correct me. I am getting old, but I don't think I dreamed that one up.

There were definitely drag marks, clear as day, starting well in front of the rubber. Bottom line is that it is very easy to see an IP, even on the field, in real time. The umpires are either inept or corrupt. Leave it up to everyone to figure out which one applies. The topic of "does she actually replant" is interesting beer talk, but really a moot point since she commits an IP via a leap prior to any replant.

 

[PEPPERS]

It would take an umpire 30 seconds to walk over and see if there is one constant line from the drag, no matter how slim the line in the dirt is.

Bill

Great point Bill! Remember the shoe polish incident in base ball years ago?

The evidence is there you just have to look for it.

 

[SoGASoftball]

Barnhill gives so many opportunites to see what pitch is coming that she may as well have her catcher hold the signals up in the air so everyone can see. She does NOTHING to hide her pitches.

Bill

Bill, can you elaborate on her telltale signs?

 

[knightsb]

 

[Rick Pauly]

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This is what I would call a crowhop.

Bill

Note the position of the ball when this pitcher or Barnhill land and bear weight on their original push foot (2 o'clock)......it is the same for every crowhopper...man, woman, or child.......this may be the easiest clue for an umpire who is blind to leaping and replanting. It is actually where the "hitch" happens.

 

[bmd]

i think the over rotation is a give away too

 

[Blacklabgator]

I watched 4 pitchers last night. And none of the 4 were legal. That I think is the reason most coaches don't say anything, because they know their kid isn't by the book either.


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[smddad]

I sure wish they would eliminate the leaping and crow-hopping rules. It would stop these 15 page arguments using super slow motion videos where the bio-engineers come out of the woodwork to give their opinions on whether or not a pitcher is bearing weight on their leg, when they have absolutely no clue. It's okay to use $350 juiced bats, step out of the box, wear an elbow guard and lean into a pitch....but heaven forbid that a pitcher might....MIGHT be bearing weight on her leg.

If the rules are good enough for the men, let the women play by them and move on.