Swing Evaluation

[Work=wins]

I think so per the discussion you guys were having elbow slots but the bat is left behind versus in two model pics you see the bat is coming along for the ride

how do we fix this iyo?

 

[clemenslee1]

how do we fix this iyo?

Just my 2 cents, Resistance against a firing core and lower half. Right now she has no resistance. she simply lets everything fly at once. IMO

 

[Work=wins]

Just my 2 cents, Resistance against a firing core and lower half. Right now she has no resistance. she simply lets everything fly at once. IMO

Where do we resist ?

 

[clemenslee1]

Where do we resist ?

To me it would be the rear shoulder,/scap, and deltoid. I would also add the front shoulder resisting to, as to not pull out early. I'm no expert though, just a dad that helps his DD. LOL

 

[Work=wins]

To me it would be the rear shoulder,/scap, and deltoid

So resist with the scap and let the core get ‘in front’ more? That would seem to exacerbate the problem no?

 

[fanboi22]

how do we fix this iyo?

What has helped my DD was to talk in terms of locking her hands in to her shoulder. Don't allow the hands to come off the shoulder until after the torso/hand engine fires at the pitch. I never really got too much out of just saying resistance or sequence when trying to relay a specific movement or position. In having her hands locked to the shoulder position, that stops her from exaggerating the scap load, or the 'walk away from hands' cue. Hands locked and slightly lower the front shoulder seems to be an effective direction to my DD then keep everything locked and turn the barrel towards the pitch. And by Turn the Barrel i mean scrunch the obliques, or make orange, or mesh the gears, whatever you like but with the hands locked as there really isn't much movement of the hand position relative to the shoulder on the torso turn (IMO).

If I talk in terms of the whole torso moving together it works better for my DD. Not that it is correct, but if the hands are left behind, you get the arm bar. I also feel that when the hands are locked to the shoulder position it also helps force the torso tilt to the plane of the ball. If you dont lock them in, the hands can drop or raise more freely.

I know there are other little tweaks that will need to be made, but this has made all the difference for DD. We haven't gone against live pitching in a while, so we shall see when that happens.

 

[clemenslee1]

So resist with the scap and let the core get ‘in front’ more? That would seem to exacerbate the problem no?

I wouldn't think so. Because you can only resist so much before the core etc. Pulls the elbow into the slot. It would cause them to lock up or sync up together, if that makes sense. To use myself as an example, to try and feel this to relay to my DD, I felt the resistance. By the way may swing is not that great, so just bear with it. LOL

 

[Work=wins]

What has helped my DD was to talk in terms of locking her hands in to her shoulder. Don't allow the hands to come off the shoulder until after the torso/hand engine fires at the pitch. I never really got too much out of just saying resistance or sequence when trying to relay a specific movement or position. In having her hands locked to the shoulder position, that stops her from exaggerating the scap load, or the 'walk away from hands' cue. Hands locked and slightly lower the front shoulder seems to be an effective direction to my DD then keep everything locked and turn the barrel towards the pitch. And by Turn the Barrel i mean scrunch the obliques, or make orange, or mesh the gears, whatever you like but with the hands locked as there really isn't much movement of the hand position relative to the shoulder on the torso turn (IMO).

If I talk in terms of the whole torso moving together it works better for my DD. Not that it is correct, but if the hands are left behind, you get the arm bar. I also feel that when the hands are locked to the shoulder position it also helps force the torso tilt to the plane of the ball. If you dont lock them in, the hands can drop or raise more freely.

I know there are other little tweaks that will need to be made, but this has made all the difference for DD. We haven't gone against live pitching in a while, so we shall see when that happens.

I like the premise behind what your post says. This all depends on if ‘what’ is making ‘what’ move and where the energy is being transferred. If you pull back early or too much with intent to hold.. balance, sequence as well as force production issues can/will arise. Flipping the barrel at the ball from the backside usually is the result since the frontside is late to be leveraged.

 

[fanboi22]

I like the premise behind what your post says. This all depends on if ‘what’ is making ‘what’ move and where the energy is being transferred. If you pull back early or too much with intent to hold.. balance, sequence as well as force production issues can/will arise. Flipping the barrel at the ball from the backside usually is the result since the frontside is late to be leveraged.

Understood on the 'what's', that was my comment on still needing to tweak things. However my DD was able to eliminate a lot of the negative doing this. Yes it created other negatives, but not as big in my opinion.

What do you mean by the bold above? Mostly the first part of the statement.

 

[Nube]

If DD can't or won't adjust what is the downside to this swing?

IE losing power, less contact, popping up, struggle against movement, can't adjust, everything is on the ground, gets jammed, can't hit specific pitches?

Her default is to do things the hard way. So I wouldn't be surprised if her swing makes hitting harder for her. Finding good hitting coaches is hard. She's been to former D1 players, current D1 hitting coach (theyve won their conference 10 of the last 11 years) former D1 hitting coach, minor league ball players.

Is this something a quality hitting coach would notice and fix?