barrel/hand pivot point, a.k.a TTB

[julray]

IS this TTB?

The barrel turns each and every swing... but IMO the best hitters in the world are not focusing on TTB

 

[Eric F]

TTB is rotation of the barrel around the HPP, perpendicular to the top-hand forearm (sometimes the term "forearm axle" is used). If the hitter is launching the barrel parallel with forearm (a "hammering" action), this is not TTB. "Hammering" is the kind of action you tend to get after a knob-push move.

 

[Work=wins]

It’s the ‘short to’ in a swing. Inside the ball. Create a direct east/west path. TTB is not for power. But it can help create a better path which can lead to more power.

Would this be a ‘knob push hammering action’? Barrel doesn’t turn.

 

[FP26]

IS this TTB?

Yes. With great barrel depth. The difference with @julray's interpretation is that he isnt taking depth into consideration when he states that all swings include turn. There is a key difference. It is that depth that is important.

 

[clemenslee1]

It’s the ‘short to’ in a swing. Inside the ball. Create a direct east/west path. TTB is not for power. But it can help create a better path which can lead to more power.

Would this be a ‘knob push hammering action’? Barrel doesn’t turn.

I would say both swings have barrel turn. The video on top you can see the top hand go palm up early which is getting the barrel turned down early. It's hard to see the hands on the second video, but you can see the barrel getting turned down early.

To me it's basically exactly like what this person demonstrates here:

 

[julray]

Yes. With great barrel depth. The difference with @julray's interpretation is that he isnt taking depth into consideration when he states that all swings include turn. There is a key difference. It is that depth that is important.

Pro's do not focus on TTB, plain and simple. They never discuss it, never demo it. The barrel turns in every swing, but not because they are trying to turn it. My advice, stop focusing on TTB and learn the proper way to use the body(FYB, Posture, leverage)... and yeah don't forget "down to". When I say my advice.. not really, it's what the pros say

 

[Work=wins]

For anyone that cares... turn the barrel was born because folks couldn’t figure out how to get the bat across the body without pushing the hands forward.

 

[FP26]

Pro's do not focus on TTB, plain and simple. They never discuss it, never demo it. The barrel turns in every swing, but not because they are trying to turn it. My advice, stop focusing on TTB and learn the proper way to use the body(FYB, Posture, leverage)... and yeah don't forget "down to". When I say my advice.. not really, it's what the pros say

The pros never talk about a lot of things. Doesnt mean it doesnt happen or isnt important. If you prefer your method great. Keep on truckin... I'm good where I'm at but I appreciate your concern.

 

[rdbass]

it's what the pros say

I'd focus on how the 'pros' do it not how they say they do it or THINK they do it......
Video don't lie.......

 

[julray]

The pros never talk about a lot of things. Doesnt mean it doesnt happen or isnt important. If you prefer your method great. Keep on truckin... I'm good where I'm at but I appreciate your concern.

I focus on what the pros talk about and do.. otherwise we are just looking at videos and guessing... risky. I really don't give a shirt which method anybody prefers.. it's not MY method, it's the best hitters in the game that say, demo and do what I am talking about. TTB or some version of it has been around a long long time according to you.. yet the pros don't talk about it, they talk about "down to".