Wanting to play travel ball instead of high school season

[radness]

Travel ball.

Perhaps because of many many more travel ball teams than h.s. and younger ages.
Plus thats hard to determine as many start developing skills befor h.s.
Travel ball players more likely to have instructors and go to camps/clinics than the girls who decided to try h.s. ball.

 

[Ksphenom]

What bothered me most was the AD lying.
I knew for fact Mr. and Mrs. Karen went into the school to complain to him. I can appreciate the coaches non-response as I gave them an out so they didn't need to fib about what was going on. If they couldn't respond with a yes or no. The default (non response) would tell me what the mandate was.

I've been against most school sports ever since Karen's complaints and the AD's lies. The AD hasn't been able to negatively effect Volleyball. Coaches figured out how keep the AD away. Super strict on kid selection and it really works.
Individual sports such as wrestling, track, tennis, swimming when you can still compete as a team and let athletes shine. These sports don't seem to have as much parent input. One v. One hard to complain about results.

Side note..... "Karen" and family had recently tested positive....... positive for Wendy's, McDonald's, Taco Bell, and the dreaded Golden Corral. Please keep the Karens in your thoughts for the upcoming holidays and Spring sports seasons.

 

[texasheat]

i take it you don’t watch much college ball if you think the base running shenanigans stop at 12U.

i watch plenty and have never seen it but I'm sure you have seen tons of it...... lol

 

[PDM]

Hmmm?
Tb coach has to
Find a field. Go to city.
Pay for field permits.
This can need to be done throughout the season/year.
Post for tryouts.
Hold tryouts to even have a team.
Build an ongoing schedule. Including traveling and showcasing.
Collect fee's.
Pay in advance for schedule/ tourneys/friendlies. Sometimes out of their own pocket to begin with.
Get that ongoing schedule updated and communicated to families.
By building a website for team.
Hold and plan practices.
Deal with parents shuffling around.
Get uniforms ordered & paid for.
Plus all the same game planning coaching stuff.
Have to disagree coaching tb is easier. While a lot both coaches do is the same. There can be more to do as a tb coach.
If anything high school itself is the feeder of players for h.s. teams.
Most already have a field or have priority on a city field.
H.s. pretty much has a set schedule assigned. Accept for a few tournys to sign up for.
Plus much shorter time frame in the schedule seasonally.

Toward the debate about
'well h.s. coaches have to work with what they get'
Yep! Same thing for every travel team!

Yes! I believe thinking through the decisions we are going to make a commitment to are important!

I was talking about coaching. You are talking mainly about administration. I've been around long enough to see how things work. School and town programs develop athletes and then clubs recruit the best of them and claim that they are good coaches because the teams are successful. There are certainly a lot of excellent TB coaches, but most are nothing special.

 

[MNDad]

i watch plenty and have never seen it but I'm sure you have seen tons of it...... lol

Yup, all the time. You’d be amazed how many team even at D1 batch a first and third play.

 

[CoachJD]

Hmmm?
Tb coach has to
Find a field. Go to city.
Pay for field permits.
This can need to be done throughout the season/year.
Post for tryouts.
Hold tryouts to even have a team.
Build an ongoing schedule. Including traveling and showcasing.
Collect fee's.
Pay in advance for schedule/ tourneys/friendlies. Sometimes out of their own pocket to begin with.
Get that ongoing schedule updated and communicated to families.
By building a website for team.
Hold and plan practices.
Deal with parents shuffling around.
Get uniforms ordered & paid for.
Plus all the same game planning coaching stuff.
Have to disagree coaching tb is easier. While a lot both coaches do is the same. There can be more to do as a tb coach.
If anything high school itself is the feeder of players for h.s. teams.
Most already have a field or have priority on a city field.
H.s. pretty much has a set schedule assigned. Accept for a few tournys to sign up for.
Plus much shorter time frame in the schedule seasonally.

Toward the debate about
'well h.s. coaches have to work with what they get'
Yep! Same thing for every travel team!

Yes! I believe thinking through the decisions we are going to make a commitment to are important!

Why do you think HS coaches don't do most, if not all, of these things plus so, so much more?

I have done literally every single thing on this list (we don't pay for the field permit, but there is a whole process to go through to get to use it).

 

[radness]

I was talking about coaching. You are talking mainly about administration. I've been around long enough to see how things work. School and town programs develop athletes and then clubs recruit the best of them and claim that they are good coaches because the teams are successful. There are certainly a lot of excellent TB coaches, but most are nothing special.

Simply what i read said
Coaching travel ball is easier.
Which i disagree.
I included examples of what needs to get done in tb and included same coaching stuff.
Also ALL of those things are part of coaching a team!

To your comment of town programs and schools develop players...dont know where you live.
In calif. Most players do
Rec
Travel ball
Then high school...while still involved in travel outside of high school.

 

[radness]

Why do you think HS coaches don't do most, if not all, of these things plus so, so much more?

I have done literally every single thing on this list (we don't pay for the field permit, but there is a whole process to go through to get to use it).

I was commenting toward the post that said
Coaching tb is easier.


Said previously,
There is
Good, bad, ugly, & beginner coaches everywhere!

Promote pay attention, think it through, make the best decision for the individuals goals!
And i stand by it!

Good Luck on the opportunitys everyone will encounter!

 

[texasheat]

Simply what i read said
Coaching travel ball is easier.
Which i disagree.
I included examples of what needs to get done in tb and included same coaching stuff.
Also ALL of those things are part of coaching a team!

To your comment of town programs and schools develop players...dont know where you live.
In calif. Most players do
Rec
Travel ball
Then high school...while still involved in travel outside of high school.

yes so much of this softball experience is regionally flavored, such that the term "Town Program" means absolutely nothing to someone from California like you or Texas like me. Have no idea what a Town Program is or how it operates.

 

[CoachJD]

I was commenting toward the post that said
Coaching tb is easier.

Right, because it is. Significantly easier.

My point is you brought up a bunch of stuff that high school coaches also do. Does every single coach do every single one of those things? No. But I also know not every travel coach does those things.

People feel compelled to defend HS because people like to say some really obviously wrong, unfair things about HS.

There are low talent programs. There are bad coaches. Both are true for travel ball, but because some dads slapped a "travel" label on the team they created so their marginally talented DD could play her favorite position, it automatically is viewed as something superior.