No stride and swinging from the launch, one legged?

[Shawn]

So push the front of the pelvis rearward rather than the back of the pelvis forward? Move the axis rearward?

The axis starts at the back hip and moves to the front hip as the swing progresses.

 

[TDS]

The axis starts at the back hip and moves to the front hip as the swing progresses.

So the front side is used to catch the transfer from rear side to front side (back leg to front leg) vs becoming leveraged with both legs ?

 

[Cornbread]

Front side is a stabilizer. This is why I think the interaction with the front foot and the ground is important

So the front side is used to catch the transfer from rear side to front side (back leg to front leg) vs becoming leveraged with both legs ?

 

[FP26]

Front side is a stabilizer. This is why I think the interaction with the front foot and the ground is important

I agree. And that interaction with the ground is not inconsistent with rear-legged hitting. But it is often misunderstood.

 

[julray]

So the front side is used to catch the transfer from rear side to front side (back leg to front leg) vs becoming leveraged with both legs ?

I am not sure how I feel about that. Seems like an inefficient way of using the core. I feel I am much powerful and engage the large core muscles much better when leveraging both legs. Also I find it very difficult to maintain posture when not leveraging both legs, not to mention getting to a balanced position. I also have first hand experience with this. My DD pushed hard off her backside (which was entirely my fault) and drove hard into her front side. This resulted in her losing her posture (coming out of her swing) and really hindered her ability to adapt to pitch speed changes and major loss of power.

 

[FP26]

I am not sure how I feel about that. Seems like an inefficient way of using the core. I feel I am much powerful and engage the large core muscles much better when leveraging both legs. Also I find it very difficult to maintain posture when leveraging both legs, not to mention being in much better balanced position. I also have first hand experience with this. My DD pushed hard off her backside (which was entirely my fault) and drove hard into her front side. This resulted in her losing her posture (coming out of her swing) and really hindered her ability to adapt to pitch speed changes and major loss of power.

It sounds like you are referring to what some call a "Push/Block/Push" or PBP. There have been some good discussions of that in the past.

 

[Work=wins]

Balancing two opposing forces leverages the front side. The contracting middle against a swiveled pelvis towards the pitcher.

balance is equal-opposite right? Reciprocal maybe?

 

[julray]

Front side is a stabilizer. This is why I think the interaction with the front foot and the ground is important

I believe any hitter only using the front side as just a stabilizer is shortchanging their swing.

 

[TDS]

The pattern some of us are referring to leverages both legs against the stretching core..
Not a great example but I think it shows the front side being leveraged before whipping the barrel.

 

[Shawn]

So the front side is used to catch the transfer from rear side to front side (back leg to front leg) vs becoming leveraged with both legs ?

I don’t like the the word catch as in it does nothing. I had to focus on the front leg/quad being relaxed and then quickly contracting the quad. Before I started focusing on the back hip being an axis point. Now the front leg, lower body, and hips contract quickly because I’m creating leverage through the back heel.