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barrel/hand pivot point, a.k.a TTB
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- May 3, 2014
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TDS stop with your BS. Which plane do you think coil is in? I will tell you. ALL THREE.
Sorry Butter been there done that !! Trout could give a rats A$$ about coil.. It happens as part of good sequence vs shoehorning all other movements around it. Get fyb without allowing the weight to shift across the pelvis to the front leg and let the contraction swing the bat "down to" the ball.
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Oh now we know what Mike is thinking? Big deal they don't use the word coil. I'm pretty sure he ain't up there thinking I better get into the S plane and leverage all of my available resources...
I bet he is isn't thinking about getting into a good sequence either. Or getting FyB without allowing his weight to shift across his pelvis.
I bet he is isn't thinking about getting into a good sequence either. Or getting FyB without allowing his weight to shift across his pelvis.
Sorry Butter been there done that !! Trout could give a rats A$$ about coil.. It happens as part of good sequence vs shoehorning all other movements around it. Get fyb without allowing the weight to shift across the pelvis to the front leg and let the contraction swing the bat "down to" the ball.
julray, since we're just having a rousing discussion (not an arousing one...lol), as you "look back" at your DD's swings in hindsight, can you see some "over" the rear shoulder in her swings now - that forces her to "push" with her arms/hands more - instead of a path coming from "under" her rear shoulder - that might allow her body to "pull" the barrel to the ball a little better?
Have a good evening....we'll talk later.
Mud,
I am having a difficult time understanding this concept. What is it that you are referring to in regards to the shoulder? Is it the barrel that you are referring to? In an ideal path does anything ever really get "under" the shoulder? I keep picturing a DBSF type of path, which I know can't be right, so I am hoping you can help me out with my understanding of the concept.
Never said that's what Mike is thinking... I am stating if the movements are focused their it will allow them to get into a leveraged fyb hitting position.
if we are just talking about the body’s movements. Then No. Sprinting is reciprocal rotation. Just like walking. You are working the upper against the lower to propel forward. The pelvis rotates one way while the the shoulders rotate the opposite way.
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Think you could move/run in zero gravity? Everytime you pushed you'd take off and never land.
Maybe just apply reciprocal motion?
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Hey DR, thanks for asking...
Yes, the barrel for the most part, but sometimes it's can be just the label - if you will - momentarily, depending on how the bat is moved when and where in the swing. But it's more of just a mental cue more so than any real checkpoint per se.
Yeah, I know, and I'm sorry...that is a pretty flakey, all-over-the-place, crappy answer, let me try to explain better.
If you recall, years ago I started using "behind and through" vs "down and to" as explaining to hitters the barrel path that I wanted them to find. This was simply getting the barrel coming from its starting spot above and behind the hitter, to not travel directly "down" from point A at the top, "to" point B out in front at contact....
....but instead, get the barrel moving from point A at the top, into a path that would get it started towards or into the hitting zone from "behind" the plate....
...and thusly "behind" the ball and "through" it at and after contact.
This worked well for a quite a number of my students, but with teaching anything, not everyone hears, comprehends, and/or applies everything the same, so I kept working on coming up with something that would get the idea across of the barrel path I was looking for, to those who the "behind and through" just wasn't cutting it.
One day I was showing a hitter how to take just his top hand (no bat) into the proper path to the ball, and he said..."Oh, so you mean take it back and 'under' my shoulder, instead of straight down from here to here 'over' it" (as he showed moving his hand from point A to point B)...and "under" vs "over" was born.
Hope that helps, and you can see it in the above clips, and in the Pujols/Arod demo clips when they show a bat/barrel path "over" the rear shoulder, compared to their actual game clips when their barrels come from behind, and "under" it.
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So gravity makes us run? Or it helps us be grounded to run? It doesn’t make us fall forward to run. That would be the body making itself run. Reciprocally.
