barrel/hand pivot point, a.k.a TTB

[julray]

Curious. If the goal is to launch the swing from an equally balanced position why stride at all? Wouldn't it be easier to just set up in this equally balanced position from the get go and swing from there? No movement at all. Dont ever have to worry about being early or late cause you are always in the hitting position the entire time.

But you do have to worry about being late.. or more importantly being on time. You said you seen the Donaldson video before that I posted.. he talks about the stride(FYB) being all about timing.

 

[TDS]

Contraction allows for the hands to be pulled "down to"

2 engine swing allows for a rear leg driver while turning the barrel down behind.

 

[Buttermaker]

The hands/forearms do that. The barrel gets turned down.

 

[Mudders Brudder]

But not from the back leg to the front leg caused by a rear leg being the primary driver.

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

But maybe you can clear it up, by answering this question posed earlier wrt a swing you posted, and statement you made.

Or another way to look at it is these guys get the shift out of the way so all thats left to do is swing leveraging all available resources.. IOW's they beat the pitcher to the hitting position they are swinging from...

Also, has Carpenter moved/shifted his weight "forward" in this clip you posted....

....and if so, then what's still "back" in the FYB thingamajig?

So if Carpenter has already shifted something forward to "get the shift out of the way" at that point where the clip stops...what did he shift "F"orward, and what is still remaining as "YB"?

 

[julray]

Yes, I said that "we called them" that...when seeing someone in the position(s) you described.

That's the good thing about hitting though...you're only going "one-way" when you're moving "FbC" (remember that one? ), so as long as you're not planted on "two legs"....you can "favor" one-leg over the other a little bit in as you're getting "FYB"....IMO mind you.

You don't have to keep saying IMO.. LOL. I hear ya and appreciate the discussion. So you view the swing as being more forward momentum based? What I'm getting at is not the ability to move 360 while in the batters box . It's more about being in a stronger, balanced and dynamic position at go time. Don't know if that makes sense, or if I'm explaining it correctly

 

[FP26]

But you do have to worry about being late.. or more importantly being on time. You said you seen the Donaldson video before that I posted.. he talks about the stride(FYB) being all about timing.

Yes. In my opinion the stride is extremely important. It's a major part of my focus. But it seems counter productive if the whole point is to be in a stationary balanced position in order to swing from. Seems like the stride would be risky under those conditions. That's why I dont understand the thought process behind the balanced position theory.

 

[TDS]

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

But maybe you can clear it up, by answering this question posed earlier wrt a swing you posted, and statement you made.


So if Carpenter has already shifted something forward to "get the shift out of the way" at that point where the clip stops...what did he shift "F"orward, and what is still remaining as "YB"?

He is shifting his COM F into both legs while the core (obliques) are being stretched YB against it.. Like I have said many times before one should focus the movements within the s-plane vs rear leg to front leg frontal plane..

 

[Mudders Brudder]

You don't have to keep saying IMO.. LOL. I hear ya and appreciate the discussion.

Thank you, I appreciate the discussion also...and I'll try to remember that when replying to you. But I've been told I'm "condescending" the way I write some of my posts, so just want to make sure I'm not telling anyone anything, and that they're simply my opinions about things, and probably not worth the bandwidth taken to write them in.

So you view the swing as being more forward momentum based? What I'm getting at is not the ability to move 360 while in the batters box . It's more about being in a stronger, balanced and dynamic position at go time. Don't know if that makes sense, or if I'm explaining it correctly

I'm not sure "momentum based" is exactly how I view it...but I do want some momentum in or into the swing at contact. Rather than simply turning in one spot, and hoping that it's strictly rotation that will get the job done....if that makes any sense as well.

 

[julray]

Yes. In my opinion the stride is extremely important. It's a major part of my focus. But it seems counter productive if the whole point is to be in a stationary balanced position in order to swing from. Seems like the stride would be risky under those conditions. That's why I dont understand the thought process behind the balanced position theory.

Risky? Athletes can stop on a dime and establish balance with ease, stop balance pivot go.. Stride forward, control your tempo and land in a balanced position. I don't think that's risky. IMO, it's more risky to have one foot in the air and having to launch before toe tap, I wouldn't want to be caught in that position.. or misreading the pitch and having adapt to a change up when my back foot is spent.

 

[Buttermaker]

He is shifting his COM F into both legs while the core (obliques) are being stretched YB against it.. Like I have said many times before one should focus the movements within the s-plane vs rear leg to front leg frontal plane..

You are showing your misunderstanding. Or intentionally misstating things.