Well, here it is...

[_MIA_]

Ok we want less run rule games because we want more competitive games...fair enough.

Let's say everything is rolled back to the 80's right now, what happens? Maybe there are a few less run rules because instead of a game being 9-1 it's 6-1..with less offense is that really a more competitive game? It isn't going to go from 9-1 to 2-1.. Sure it now goes 7 instead of 5...so what.

 

[_MIA_]

Less offense doesn't make for more competitive games...better distribution of talent does.

 

[LEsoftballdad]

I'm not an advocate for less offense. I was actually joking about my daughter. The only thing I'd like to see changed is for the fences to be 225' and 8' high. I don't think that reduces the offense all that much. It will reduce the home run numbers, but it might increase doubles and triples, which can be equally as exciting.

 

[_MIA_]

That's like saying the majority of teams don't have top tier shortstop.

The top tier is top tier

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Mind blown..

 

[RADcatcher]

I would venture a guess to say there are a lot of mercy wins in out of conference games between P5 teams and smaller D1 schools.

Following multiple travel events throughout the summer, Colorado along with many teams in pgf.
Along with Following year's of seasons at multiple different colleges in all different levels...
Definitely lots of run ruled games.

What do you think? is there a need for more effective pitchers?

 

[RADcatcher]

That's like saying the majority of teams don't have top tier shortstop.

The top tier is top tier

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imo, there is a need for stronger pitching across the board.

Simply, pitchers have a much more active role in the game!

 

[_MIA_]

What do you think? is there a need for more effective pitchers?

It would make the game even better sure..all for it. What does that have to do with changing anything to have less offense? Unless you think that kids don't pitch or are quitting because of it, which I suppose is a possibility.

 

[RADcatcher]

It would make the game even better sure.
.all for it.

What does that have to do with changing anything to have less offense?

See your above comment.

Unless you think that kids don't pitch or are quitting because of it, which I suppose is a possibility.

Could be
Failure potentially can cause a negative outcome. Could be that losing by a couple runs is not as bad as being slaughtered. Then include more chances to win.

 

[Gtrips07]

imo, there is a need for stronger pitching across the board.

Simply, pitchers have a much more active role in the game!

As Pattar pointed out, if you take OU out of the equation, most of the other teams are about equal. Better analytics, better equipment, and better players equal more runs. I'd argue there are more teams now that go multiple pitcher deep, except from the teams that can't hit and have been relying on one pitcher to win 1-0 games.

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[_MIA_]

See your above comment.

So by more effective pitchers you don't actually mean more of them..you just mean the ones we have now have lower ERAs....That wasn't what I was agreeing with. That won't do anything..5 runs games with old bats/balls are no more competitive then 8 run games with the balls/bats we have now.

A higher number of effective pitchers WILL make for more competitive games.