The Kelly Barnhill Thread

[GunnerShotgun]

Based on seeing her in person the few times when she was held accountable it was 3-5mph

That's what I was after. That is interesting.

 

[riseball]

Like a fish out of water.

 

[knightsb]

DD used to take a gym step during her delivery. It would increase her speed 1-2 MPH. Would that be considered a "significant" advantage, probably not. I can tell you, however, it was a huge mental advantage. That slight 6"-8" slide forward gave her a more powerful feeling and a big confidence boost. When she would get called for an IP, that would give her something she had to focus on, other than the batter and the pitch location, and her effectiveness would clearly drop. We had to completely change her pre-motion to ultimately eliminate the gym step (skip step). IMO, calling illegal pitches on an illegal pitcher takes them out of their element and has a big impact on their effectiveness.

 

[4 girl's dad]

In my experience leaping provides no advantage with regards to pitching speed. There is an advantage to being closer to home plate and that math has been done (the advantage was small).

Now crow-hopping is a different animal (which we are discussing here). I haven't seen any math on the advantage of crow-hopping and I was curious. You said "significant" advantage so I was wondering if you had some statistics, radar data, etc.

It was a curiosity rather than a challenge.

TO ME, the advantage is its one less thing to focus on during the delivery, they are closer when the push off, they are typically out of the pitching lane though not always, and its disrupts the timing of the batter due to the release being closer.

 

[4 girl's dad]

DD used to take a gym step during her delivery. It would increase her speed 1-2 MPH. Would that be considered a "significant" advantage, probably not. I can tell you, however, it was a huge mental advantage. That slight 6"-8" slide forward gave her a more powerful feeling and a big confidence boost. When she would get called for an IP, that would give her something she had to focus on, other than the batter and the pitch location, and her effectiveness would clearly drop. We had to completely change her pre-motion to ultimately eliminate the gym step (skip step). IMO, calling illegal pitches on an illegal pitcher takes them out of their element and has a big impact on their effectiveness.

Dead on and a huge point!

 

[obbay]

PS. I sent the videos to Nancy Kempf. Since she called all of us ignorant for thinking that Barnhill pitches illegal

thank you, but make sure it goes to Cheri Kempf

also I'm thinking that 2 mph and possibly shaving 6" or more off the distance from Pitcher to Home (due to replant) very possibly results in a significant affect to a batter who is swinging a round bat at a round ball that has to make contact correctly for 1/2000 of a second.

also, the few times I have seen Barnhill try to field her position, it was like RB said-"a fish out of water". mathematically, I don't think she would have the stats she has if she was pitching legally.

 

[martianr]

thank you, but make sure it goes to Cheri Kempf

also I'm thinking that 2 mph and possibly shaving 6" or more off the distance from Pitcher to Home (due to replant) very possibly results in a significant affect to a batter who is swinging a round bat at a round ball that has to make contact correctly for 1/2000 of a second.

also, the few times I have seen Barnhill try to field her position, it was like RB said-"a fish out of water". mathematically, I don't think she would have the stats she has if she was pitching legally.

Thanks for spotting that. I did send it to Cheri Kempf. IF she replays I can't wait to hear her weasel out of this one.

 

[Rocketech1]

Dead on and a huge point!

Of course it does. Take any athlete and immediately make them change their pitching, hitting, fielding mechanics etc; they are not going to be as effective (especially in the near term). Your are stating the obvious.

 

[4 girl's dad]

So you're saying that calling the current illegal pitchers consistently won't change how effective they are in the long term?

 

[cuzmail]

the few times I have seen Barnhill try to field her position, it was like RB said-"a fish out of water".

Her fielding inability has a place on our team. Anytime someone (esp the pitcher) muffs a routine throw, they say she "Barnhilled it".