Rear Elbow ahead of Hands

[3DD'sDAD]

I read on here in a thread (sorry don't recall which one) a comment regarding a hitter's rear elbow getting ahead of the hands causing bat drag. Bat lag is a good thing as it helps generate power (whip) at least as I understand it. Can someone elaborate on this? I would like to incorporate this into a matrix drill but I am struggling with the verbiage.

Any takers?

 

[rdbass]

Bat Drag:

 

[rdbass]

Bat lag:

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

'Bat lag', achieved correctly, is a 'good thing'.

'Bat drag' can lead to an out-front whip-like action, and it can deliver a forceful impact ... but it is generally considered a 'bad thing' as it leads to a 'longer' swing that will often see a hitter removed from the game as they attempt to play at higher levels.

The elbow leading the hands does not necessarily mean that there is 'bat drag'. See video clip of Ted Williams below.

 

[rdbass]

I read on here in a thread (sorry don't recall which one) a comment regarding a hitter's rear elbow getting ahead of the hands causing bat drag. Bat lag is a good thing as it helps generate power (whip) at least as I understand it. Can someone elaborate on this? I would like to incorporate this into a matrix drill but I am struggling with the verbiage.

Any takers?

Bat Lag is a pass through position. Like a lot of different position in the swing sequence. What happens upstream is what gives a hitter whip, like 'turn the barrel'. JMHO.

 

[Eric F]

When the barrel is turned to the swing plane by rotation of the hands/forearms - rather than by movement of the arms independent of the torso - bat drag becomes a non-issue. Notice how Mig's hand stay in front of and connected to the rear shoulder. Arm movement is extension OUT FROM the torso, rather than AROUND the torso.

 

[FP26]

Bat Drag:

That top picture looks painful. I can't even get my arm into that position.

 

[wichita]

You cant drive the top hand through contact with the elbow leading the hands you have lost all leverage with the top hand and arm usually caused by an all arm swing and not swinging from the ground up JMHO

 

[HOF86]

I read on here in a thread (sorry don't recall which one) a comment regarding a hitter's rear elbow getting ahead of the hands causing bat drag. Bat lag is a good thing as it helps generate power (whip) at least as I understand it. Can someone elaborate on this? I would like to incorporate this into a matrix drill but I am struggling with the verbiage.

Any takers?

Most likely elbo ahead of hands is a sequence problem. Look into and fully understand what sequence means and ill bet you will solve this problem!

Incorporate what?

 

[HOF86]

'Bat lag', achieved correctly, is a 'good thing'.

'Bat drag' can lead to an out-front whip-like action, and it can deliver a forceful impact ... but it is generally considered a 'bad thing' as it leads to a 'longer' swing that will often see a hitter removed from the game as they attempt to play at higher levels.

The elbow leading the hands does not necessarily mean that there is 'bat drag'. See video clip of Ted Williams below.

This is a horrible example! Absolutely horrible! Wrong angle, one of the greatest hitters of all time if not the greatest, TW not doing anything similar to what the thread is about! Just awful!