New IR drill

[NJSwampdragons]

Yeah, what your daughter is doing isn't Tincher (as I know it). I've been doing Tincher for a few years, and we've never seen that drill. It may be what your instructor showed you, but my guess is that something's off a bit.

Ask your instructor if this is the 55 WIDE drill. If so, feet are wrong. We've never had a Tincher drill with feet the way you have them.

And yes, her upper body bends forward right at release. Gotta stay tall.

 

[uncdrew]

Gotcha.

It certainly may be a new drill, or a drill just for certain girls working on certain things.

 

[Ken Krause]

Yes, this drill definitely has a Wasserman influence. He uses a similar drill to teach overhand throwing. I've watched him teach it in live clinics. The drill is also similar to Rick Pauly's Perpendicular Power Line drill, although that drill is performed with the feet side-by-side.

I believe in all cases the primary goal is to feel the shoulders dissociate from the hips instead of having the two move in lockstep. You want the shoulder to come further than the hips, then finish slightly behind the hips at release. The drill shown here, as well as Rick's drill, are designed to help them learn how to dissociate the shoulders and hips. It can also lead to better whip, although there are other factors involved in whip as well.

 

[NJSwampdragons]

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[Rosey]

I agree with Ken. The drill I think is intended to create some hip to shoulder separation. Not saying I completely agree with it. It goes along the beliefs that the hip should lead the shoulder slightly before release which also creates brush. As Pauly's 4d motion stats will tell you that the sequencing of the pitch should be hips, then shoulders, then arm. I didn't think Tincher instructors like brush so I'm surprised that they like this staggered stance drill. It's definitely a Wasserman influence. I don't intend to use this drill ever to teach brush (TEACH POSTURE FIRST) but I see what they are trying to do.

 

[Hillhouse]

And people ask why I don't offer a "certification" program????? Take a look at this thread, we have a "Tincher coach" who is apparently teaching his/her own drills and still making money off Mr. Tincher's name and program. That alone is troublesome with or without even talking about the validity of these drills.

I have a legit question: If I was a "Tincher coach" and I came up with a gadget or a drill that was revolutionary, would Mr. Tincher own that, would he be allowed to adopt that as his own, is it like the Star Trek Borg where there is one big collective or hive that everyone shares thoughts, ideas, drills and gadgets? I guess that question could be asked towards any cert program, not just Mr. Tincher's. But, I'm curious if the coach who "invents" a new drill is admonished or applauded for coming up with something that the owner did not.

 

[Rosey]

@Hillhouse Good question.

 

[NJSwampdragons]

And people ask why I don't offer a "certification" program????? Take a look at this thread, we have a "Tincher coach" who is apparently teaching his/her own drills and still making money off Mr. Tincher's name and program. That alone is troublesome with or without even talking about the validity of these drills.

I have a legit question: If I was a "Tincher coach" and I came up with a gadget or a drill that was revolutionary, would Mr. Tincher own that, would he be allowed to adopt that as his own, is it like the Star Trek Borg where there is one big collective or hive that everyone shares thoughts, ideas, drills and gadgets? I guess that question could be asked towards any cert program, not just Mr. Tincher's. But, I'm curious if the coach who "invents" a new drill is admonished or applauded for coming up with something that the owner did not.

The coach who originally came up with the drill it looks like is the development specialist for Tincher, so I’m guessing she also works for him and gets paid in that capacity. For most companies. anything you invent is not yours.

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[radness]

And people ask why I don't offer a "certification" program????? Take a look at this thread, we have a "Tincher coach" who is apparently teaching his/her own drills and still making money off Mr. Tincher's name and program. That alone is troublesome with or without even talking about the validity of these drills.

I have a legit question: If I was a "Tincher coach" and I came up with a gadget or a drill that was revolutionary, would Mr. Tincher own that, would he be allowed to adopt that as his own, is it like the Star Trek Borg where there is one big collective or hive that everyone shares thoughts, ideas, drills and gadgets? I guess that question could be asked towards any cert program, not just Mr. Tincher's. But, I'm curious if the coach who "invents" a new drill is admonished or applauded for coming up with something that the owner did not.

Ohhh Star Trek and the Borg ....

 

[Jay Bolden]

@Hillhouse Depends on if you're the new fad and we can throw some money at you and get you on our team so we can then "intellectual property" it and send it out to the rest of our cookie cutters.