He’s displaying the same path as his game swings. Sadaharu OH said that’s his path as well. Teddy Ballgames path is very similar. I think there’s more there. Like I said, I believe there are 2 different paths/approaches that MLBers use. Both are above the ball but one is more passive and the other is more aggressive. You don’t think there are 2 approaches and that would impact how the bat is swung?
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He’s displaying the same path as his game swings. Sadaharu OH said that’s his path as well. Teddy Ballgames path is very similar. I think there’s more there. Like I said, I believe there are 2 different paths/approaches that MLBers use. Both are above the ball but one is more passive and the other is more aggressive. You don’t think there are 2 approaches and that would impact how the bat is swung?
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I must be really off on this then (bold above). I guess i see it as rotational around the turning torso then to linear - release the barrel to ball with extension. To me someone like Trout mostly doesn't release.
Could you help me with the thought of linear to rotational? thanks.
Old school
I don’t think about staying inside the ball, get the head out’- Albert Pujols
New School
‘You still gotta get inside the ball’ - Miggy
One is more vertical, oppo. One is more flat, pull.
I don’t think about staying inside the ball, get the head out’- Albert Pujols
New School
‘You still gotta get inside the ball’ - Miggy
One is more vertical, oppo. One is more flat, pull.
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"Approaches" are mental, and there can be as many as there are what works for any particular hitter. But the barrel path of all of them is the same, regardless of what they might say their "approach" to achieving it is.
Again, I coach from a barrel centric "approach", and what Barry displays in his "selling autographs" swing is not what his barrel actually does in his game swings, and so why I don't teach that barrel path.
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Sure, when you stride forward don't rotate your hips (rear hip) forward...move the rear hip linearly until the start of your swing rotates towards the ball. "Linear to rotational".
EDIT: Although I think I know where it can become confusing. You're thinking of the "Nike Swoosh" depiction of the barrel path itself that results after the hitter has committed to the rotational part of the hips usage after their linear movement forward...
...that part is most definitely "rotational to linear".
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Your being difficult. Those paths both flatten out behind Bonds.
pick up a bat. Do some dry swinging. Swing oppo and inside out some inside pitches. See how much your barrel turns behind you. Very little. then ‘pull’ some outside pitches to CF. You barrel doesn’t turn a bunch more? Do the same with the other locations. Your turn will be much greater when pulling any pitch. Your turn will be much less when thinking oppo.
Barrel turn is relative to intent and bat path is the result.
I definelty see and feel it like the guys who say they swing down to the ball. Trying like he!! to not lose the barrel.
your swing is down and across. You are not an inside outer.
I believe hand path and barrel path both have their place. So I can see benefit to a barrel centric or a hand centric approach. It all depends what the student needs... Personally I started noticing the difference while using a Zepp sensor. It provides telemetry so that you can see a 3d rendering of both barrel path and hand path. Most pros talk more about hands, so that has generally been my focus. However, what I have noticed is that correcting hand path does not guarantee the correct barrel path. However, I have never seen anyone with the barrel path I am looking for that also did not have a solid hand path. So while my teaching may vary from hitter to hitter, my focus is more on the barrel now. Just my $.02.
