Rise ball release?

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BLB

May 19, 2008
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Timing of the release point determines the height of the pitch at the plate. Pitchers usually check their location then try to make adjustments when needed. Some pitchers obviously need work on their mechanics such posture at release. Forward lean can really mess up their release point location at the moment the upper arm reaches vertical, etc. Koert Rise2.Still005.jpg
 
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BLB

May 19, 2008
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That picture does not look like a rise, as the fingers are usually more horizontal, and the wrist is cocked.
This IS a Rise ball being thrown by a world elite pitcher. But then again, you can always get a list of contact info for all world class pitchers and share your ideas on how to properly throw a Rise ball. I'm sure they don't realize they're doing it all wrong.
 
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JJsqueeze

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Jul 5, 2013
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OILF says cock the wrist. Rich Balswick specifically uncocked my DDs wrist and had her focus on the fingers getting under and up the front of the ball. Tough choice but I will go with Rich'a advice.
 

gvm

Sep 3, 2010
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Doesn't seem as easy as "land the foot and throw " if dd releases to late it creates bullet spin. That's why I asked the question. I see cat osterman say release at back hip. But my dd is being taught to release a little later. That's why I am looking for video or opinions to see for myself.
 

JJsqueeze

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Jul 5, 2013
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Gvm- what you are noticing is probably the same as 99 percent of folks who have seen a girl work on the rise. Release wise it is the same as every other pitch except the CU, meaning it is released at brush with the back hip. I think the key to getting up spin and not bullet is to get the fingers working up INTO the contact instead of getting them working up the front at contact. It is a very slight timing difference that makes a big spin quality impact. The other bullet spin driver is when they let it roll off the finger tips instead of letting the fingers pass under and up. The last little problem is that darn opposable thumb. A good drill is a no thumb Riseball thrown from a K. Not lets them feel how to let the fingers dominate and let the thumb be passive. Look at the grip in the picture posted earlier and notice how the thumb is positioned.n this is intentional to try to let the ball pass under the thumb and just use a cutting motion under and up the ball to drive the spin.
 
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Doesn't seem as easy as "land the foot and throw " if dd releases to late it creates bullet spin. That's why I asked the question. I see cat osterman say release at back hip. But my dd is being taught to release a little later. That's why I am looking for video or opinions to see for myself
No Bullet spin here.... :cool:

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gvm

Sep 3, 2010
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Ok , I will have her experiment with her thumb . She gets tremendous spin and I realize that to attain a perfect 12-6 rotation is very hard to accomplish on every pitch. She gets back spin but if she holds on a split second longer it is more of a bullet spin.
 

JJsqueeze

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Jul 5, 2013
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dont sweat perfect backspin, it can be have a little yaw in it, to throw it fast enough for the spin to do its job you need to let the spin be off center a little, perfect backspin can be thrown but not at a high enough speed to be effective.
 

JAD

Feb 20, 2012
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One thing we do to help my DD with her riseball spin is to use a mini football and throw underhanded spirals.
 

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