No stride and swinging from the launch, one legged?

[Cornbread]

It all depends on how you define weight shift.... In my opinion this hitter is not starting in the launch position. You can see his hips move towards the pitcher before he launches. It isn't until his hips stop moving in that direction that launch position is truly reached. When the launch occurs, he does have some weight applied at the front foot, but there is more weight applied to the rear foot (rear-legged). The act of launching the swing will force the front foot down resulting in more weight being applied to the front foot and consequently less applied to the rear foot. And, yes, I do consider this to be an absolute among the best hitters.

Some people look at weight shift as COG (center of gravity or center of mass -- @pattar can correct me here, I'm sure.) If you have ever been a member at BBD, one of the members there (bluedog) talks about weight shift occurring prior to launch. What he is referring to is this movement of the hips towards the pitcher (COG or COM). I believe his phrase is "shift to the middle" -- @TDS can correct me on this as he is a member there as well. I don't think anyone disputes this claim from bluedog, its just that weight shift is viewed differently based on their point of view. And, yes, I believe the "shift to the middle" as defined above is also an absolute among the best hitters. Just a different application of weight shift.

FYI... Personally I find the whole turf war garbage to be tedious. I do my best to understand all parties and provide my understanding. But if i am incorrect on something I am perfectly fine with someone else correcting me. I consider the agendas that some want to pursue a waste of time.

Is this for no stride hitters only or do you think this is for traditional strides as well?

 

[rdbass]

anytime you move forward there is coil occurring.

Not true....

 

[FP26]

Is this for no stride hitters only or do you think this is for traditional strides as well?

In my opinion stride is just part of an individual style. Some are more successful with no-stride, some with a moderate stride, some with a high leg kick. In all cases the underlying mechanics are the same. It is simply the visual portion that is different.

 

[TDS]

fp26,

2 types of coiling..

One way is to turn the outside thing "around" the inside thing, or the other is to turn the inside thing inside of the outside thing...but either way gets the outside thing coiling "around" the inside thing.

IOW's I think it happens whenever one strides.

 

[FP26]

fp26,

2 types of coiling..

One way is to turn the outside thing "around" the inside thing, or the other is to turn the inside thing inside of the outside thing...but either way gets the outside thing coiling "around" the inside thing.

IOW's I think it happens whenever one strides.

Coil typically happens to some extent during the move out. I agree with that. However some amateurs don't coil properly or release it too soon.

 

[Cornbread]

Coil typically happens to some extent during the move out. I agree with that. However some amateurs don't coil properly or release it too soon.

What ques do y’all use for maintaining coil during the move out? I like “keep the hips skinny”.

 

[FP26]

What ques do y’all use for maintaining coil during the move out? I like “keep the hips skinny”.

That's an interesting cue. Can't say I have ever heard that one. But I'm big on whatever works. I don't really use a cue for this. I like using various versions of the SnF drill. The 45 degree version is my favorite. If done properly, the hitter will get a good feel for maintaining coil into launch. I see it as all about resistance. The hitter is moving forward, but resisting moving forward at the same time. I have used the phrase "controlled move out". Then at launch, the resistance bursts.

 

[Work=wins]

What ques do y’all use for maintaining coil during the move out? I like “keep the hips skinny”.

I do it through stance and purely through sequence. At least thats the goal.

 

[Shawn]

fp26,

2 types of coiling..

One way is to turn the outside thing "around" the inside thing, or the other is to turn the inside thing inside of the outside thing...but either way gets the outside thing coiling "around" the inside thing.

IOW's I think it happens whenever one strides.

Hitters are different, in this no stride he is drifting forward with the hips. It’s a little different then Marte that RDbass posted or the first clip I posted.

 

[Cornbread]

Hitters are different, in this no stride he is drifting forward with the hips. It’s a little different then Marte that RDbass posted or the first clip I posted.

Shawn, what do you think about the rear glute launching the swing?