barrel/hand pivot point, a.k.a TTB

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Jun 8, 2016
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I would have to go searching, do you know the thread titles?
I'm teasing..I am sure he will answer (and if not I will trick it out of him by answering incorrectly in what follows) but I believe the second turn in his description is what many call "releasing the barrel"

Edit: and those other threads were as long as this one so good luck searching :LOL:
 
Oct 2, 2017
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Now, now be careful there.. Forced or not the barrel initially starts with zero velocity in the direction along the path to the ball and then goes to a nonzero velocity....
So you are saying that the initial Turn of the barrel reaches a constant state of velocity with no additional acceleration until a certain point in which the velocity is changed?
 
Oct 13, 2014
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South Cali
Now granted I haven't been studying this stuff for as long as you may have, but you would be the first that I have ever heard say "2 barrel turns" when discussing TTB or otherwise. Please explain



The barrel starts splitting his helmet and works towards his back shoulder a bit(turn 1). it really is the back elbow slotting and the player preparing to ‘tomahawk’ or ‘ throw’ the barrel.

the second turn occurs when he is releasing(throwing) the barrel into the ball.

it’s turn-down to-turn.
 
Jun 8, 2016
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So you are saying that the initial Turn of the barrel reaches a constant state of velocity with no additional acceleration until a certain point in which the velocity is changed?
No I am just saying that his initial turn has to have acceleration based upon the mathematical definition of acceleration since at some point the velocity along the direction of the barrel path starts at zero and then goes to nonzero (since it is moving)..I was just nitpicking him since he loves when I do that...its our thing :LOL:
 
Oct 13, 2014
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South Cali
I'm teasing..I am sure he will answer (and if not I will trick it out of him by answering incorrectly in what follows) but I believe the second turn in his description is what many call "releasing the barrel"

Edit: and those other threads were as long as this one so good luck searching :LOL:
I'm teasing..I am sure he will answer (and if not I will trick it out of him by answering incorrectly in what follows) but I believe the second turn in his description is what many call "releasing the barrel"

Edit: and those other threads were as long as this one so good luck searching :LOL:

hahaha. 😡. but true. Think I need to block you. 😆 teasing of course.
 
May 24, 2013
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Great adjustment ! Good piece of hitting ! But it doesn’t match what you say she does. Sorry. The initial turn (acceleration from GO in your words) isn’t true. She delays sit a bit and goes to the ball. If she was yanking her hands rearward it’s a swing and miss or a roll over.

Cornbread asked about adjustability, and I responded with some of the factors that help with adjustability. I never said that the swing I posted was a perfect example. Maddie got caught out of position by a good pitch. These things happen to every hitter. In that situation, all you can do is rely on athleticism and the tools you have. Maddie understands how to delay her launch by continuing to pull back, even when her body is out of perfect position. Her ability to generate quick barrel speed was a big factor in turning this into a productive hit.

Maybe we have a different definition of "go". "Go" is launch. Committal to the swing. In this swing. she delayed her "go", and then accelerated the barrel to the ball as quickly as she could.

I'm not sure what you mean by "yanking her hands rearward". That's not a description I would use to describe a good swing. It sounds like a problem.
 

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