The Kelly Barnhill Thread

[riseball]

To be clear:
1) you do not think her pivot foot bears weight after the initial push.
2) you do not think she is not getting a second push.
3) other than a leap, in your opinion, she is legal.

I must be crazy because I very clearly see the pivot foot weighted a second time, and clearly see a second push.

To be clear, in order to pitch legally the pivot foot must bear weight after the initial push. The only way for this not to occur would be to leap.

 

[Hillhouse]

She's not landing on the ball of her pivot foot? Let me clean my glasses.

smartass it all you like. I see her landing on the side of the foot, including the side of her ball of foot. the rest of the foot coming down prevents a conventional crowhop.

 

[Hillhouse]

smartass it all you like. I see her landing on the side of the foot, including the side of her ball of foot. the rest of the foot coming down prevents a conventional crowhop.

Not to mention that a crowhoppers second push is going to be forward. Her foot goes to the 1st base side with a heavy drag. The drag means no 2nd' push. IMHO.

Bill

 

[knightsb]

knight,

do you have one GIF from the side?

 

[knightsb]

smartass it all you like. I see her landing on the side of the foot, including the side of her ball of foot. the rest of the foot coming down prevents a conventional crowhop.

Sorry, didn't mean to come off like a smartass. I really do appreciate your opinion, and you weighing in on this topic.

 

[knightsb]

To be clear, in order to pitch legally the pivot foot must bear weight after the initial push. The only way for this not to occur would be to leap.

I was trying to use the NCAA language regarding the pivot foot bearing weight:

10.4.6 Crow hopping is not allowed, The pitcher may not replant, gain a second starting point and push off her pivot foot. Once having lost contact with the pitcher’s plate, the pivot foot may trail on the ground but may not bear weight again until the pitch is released.

I was trying to get Bill's opinion, based on the NCAA rule if he thought her pivot foot was "bearing weight again".

 

[FastPitchCat]

all i can say is that her drive foot is certainly landing on the ball of her foot, not on the side.
and if that bent knee pointing back isn't loading her leg for a second push, i dont' see what its for.
this looks so similar to ally carda

 

[PEPPERS]

Bill I di not mean to imply you advocating pitching illegal, I have some of your tapes and DD pitch coach teach much like you do IMO, he is an ex pitcher in men's fast-pitch. I certainly have great respect you and your opinion.

IMO the rules are there, they just need to be enforced.

 

[knightsb]

Bill I di not mean to imply you advocating pitching illegal, I have some of your tapes and DD pitch coach teach much like you do IMO, he is an ex pitcher in men's fast-pitch. I certainly have great respect you and your opinion.

IMO the rules are there, they just need to be enforced.

Second that, definitely respect you and your opinion.

 

[cweb]

Good stuff right there.. Finally a respected voice of reason.