I think the freshman from Clemson had a true rise and an off speed rise. I believe it was Clemson.
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I think the freshman from Clemson had a true rise and an off speed rise. I believe it was Clemson.
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Haven't been watching so I can't comment too much on too many pitchers. But, it's not surprising to read here that the Va Tech pitcher had the best spin according to some here. Doug Gillis is a great coach of pitching and would be teaching backspin as much as possible. Nobody will have 6/12 spin, NOBODY. It's almost impossible to do on a riseball but the goal is to get as close to that as you can.
I've said for 2 years now that Garcia, and now Fouts (according to what I'm reading) don't get alot of K's because of great movement. They get it because they throw 5-10 mph faster than their opponents. Moreover, they throw even harder than what the kids would see in BP. This is why the VA Tech beating UCLA last week didn't surprise me, I bet Gillis threw tons of BP to their hitters prepping them for Garcia's velocity. Why didn't they hit her in the other games? I don't know, adjustments were made. Maybe VA tech didn't do the same prep for those games? I don't know.
I was amazed at Monica Abbott's rise back in Feb in Dallas. She doesn't have backspin either. She has more curveball like spin. Not bullet!! But, not backspin either. Osterman had close to backspin.
I've said for 2 years now that Garcia, and now Fouts (according to what I'm reading) don't get alot of K's because of great movement. They get it because they throw 5-10 mph faster than their opponents. Moreover, they throw even harder than what the kids would see in BP. This is why the VA Tech beating UCLA last week didn't surprise me, I bet Gillis threw tons of BP to their hitters prepping them for Garcia's velocity. Why didn't they hit her in the other games? I don't know, adjustments were made. Maybe VA tech didn't do the same prep for those games? I don't know.
I was amazed at Monica Abbott's rise back in Feb in Dallas. She doesn't have backspin either. She has more curveball like spin. Not bullet!! But, not backspin either. Osterman had close to backspin.
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And Fouts is so tall that her plant foot is outside the circle
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Fouts and many others are tall enough that it makes the pitching distance look short.
Every time I see it I think “why is the rubber so close”. Usually it’s when they are warming up and you are walking by the bull pen… Looks like they are pitching from 35’
Every time I see it I think “why is the rubber so close”. Usually it’s when they are warming up and you are walking by the bull pen… Looks like they are pitching from 35’
I saw Rachel Garcia using a drop curve, it was basically her change up coming in at around 56 mph.
If you get a chance, you should watch Keely Rochard (VTU's pitcher) throw against UCLA. She was something else. She was the best pitcher in the UCLA v. VT series.
UCLA had the better team and two very good pitchers. Rochard wore out.
She had great control and composure.
She "cheated" in the same sense that runners try leaving base early. She only did it when she needed to, and she was smart about it.
Whenever she wanted to throw an outside pitch to a lefty, she would step out of the pitching lane. She didn't do it every pitch. Really, really smart pitcher.
Here is an interesting read about Rochard. Not a great riseball her freshman year apparently(I read this as bullet spin). Gillis came in her sophomore year I believe.
She gives Gillis a lot of credit(and vice versa!).
roanoke.com
She gives Gillis a lot of credit(and vice versa!).
Virginia Tech softball ace Keely Rochard one of the nation's best pitchers
Rochard stymies hitters with her riseball, change-up and dropball.
The ball leaves Fouts hand at about 36' away at 70+. Makes you wonder how anybody gets a hit.
I have a fairly limited physics knowledge base. Could someone point me towards an explanation of how it would be possible to get rise out of bullet spin?
Yaw. Tough concept. But basically if you throw it with a dot (small or large) spin the yaw of the are flow over and under the ball allows it to drop less than other pitches. Ie dot rise or bullet soon rise. I believe the smooth area or dot needs to be on top so the air flow over the top of the ball is less.
I’m no expert.
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