How to crow hop?

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Jan 6, 2009
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Just watching this video posted, there is a ton of good stuff in there. Sure we can quibble here or there but for the most part if you followed this you would be off to a pretty good start...I did just skim maybe I missed the second push part but she used mostly still pictures when talking about that stuff.
It’s not all bad, I just wonder if she knows what she is teaching.

She is teaching get open and then close. The replanting is so she can get the lowerbody back into the pitch.

They do it fast.

 
Aug 21, 2008
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Yep, I purchased a course. It’s how to crow hop. She even calls it the second push. The crop hop is just the stepping style after the first push off.

She has a student pitching and crow hopping. But, she doesn’t think you have to see how far you get out there. They hide it a little, I can tell, as most here can.
So she is selling a course on how to pitch with a crow hop, which isn't technically legal yet? What am I missing?
 
Jan 6, 2009
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Just watching this video posted, there is a ton of good stuff in there. Sure we can quibble here or there but for the most part if you followed this you would be off to a pretty good start...I did just skim maybe I missed the second push part but she used mostly still pictures when talking about that stuff.

I think she mentioned the second push in her course. She did flat out called it a second push. The course is mostly just drills.
 
May 29, 2015
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NFHS
Rule 6 Pitching
SECTION 1 PITCHING REGULATIONS (F.P.)
ART. 2 . . . About the Pitch:
c. The pivot foot may remain in contact with or may push off and drag away from the pitching plate prior to the front foot touching the ground, as long as the pivot foot remains in contact with the ground and within the 24-inch length. If a hole has been created in front of the pitcher’s plate, the pivot foot may be no higher than the level plane of the ground. Pushing off with the pivot foot from a place other than the pitcher’s plate is illegal.

NOTES:
1: It is not a step if the pitcher slides her foot in any direction on the pitcher’s plate, provided contact is maintained.
2: Techniques such as the “crow hop” and “the leap” are illegal. (2-16; 2-33)

USSSA

RULE 6. PITCHING
Sec 1.
E. The Pitch:
3. The pivot foot must remain in contact with the pitcher’s plate or push off and drag away from the pitcher’s plate or be airborne prior to the non-pivot foot touching the ground. The pitcher may leap from the pitcher’s plate, land with the non-pivot foot and with a continuous motion deliver the ball to the batter. The pivot foot may follow through with the pitcher’s continuous motion.
NOTE 1: It is not a step if the pitcher slides their pivot foot in any direction on the pitcher’s plate, provided contact is maintained.
NOTE 2: The pitcher’s push off to drag, or leap must start from the pitcher’s plate. The pitcher must not crow hop or push off from any place other than the pitcher’s plate.
NOTE 3: All movement of the pitching arm must be continuous as the pitcher steps, pushes or leaps from the pitcher’s plate.

NCAA
RULE 10 Pitching
10.5 Step/Stride
10.5.4 Leaping is not allowed. The pitcher may not become airborne on the initial drive from the pitcher’s plate. The pivot foot must slide/drag on the ground.
10.5.5 The pitcher is not allowed to hop or drag to a replant (crowhop), gain a second starting point and push off their pivot foot. Once having lost contact with the pitcher’s plate, the pivot foot may trail on the ground but may not bear weight again until the pitch is released.

Sorry I don't have a current USA rulebook.

Just in case there were any questions. :unsure:
 
Jan 6, 2009
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Chehalis, Wa
NFHS
Rule 6 Pitching
SECTION 1 PITCHING REGULATIONS (F.P.)
ART. 2 . . . About the Pitch:
c. The pivot foot may remain in contact with or may push off and drag away from the pitching plate prior to the front foot touching the ground, as long as the pivot foot remains in contact with the ground and within the 24-inch length. If a hole has been created in front of the pitcher’s plate, the pivot foot may be no higher than the level plane of the ground. Pushing off with the pivot foot from a place other than the pitcher’s plate is illegal.

NOTES:
1: It is not a step if the pitcher slides her foot in any direction on the pitcher’s plate, provided contact is maintained.
2: Techniques such as the “crow hop” and “the leap” are illegal. (2-16; 2-33)

USSSA

RULE 6. PITCHING
Sec 1.
E. The Pitch:
3. The pivot foot must remain in contact with the pitcher’s plate or push off and drag away from the pitcher’s plate or be airborne prior to the non-pivot foot touching the ground. The pitcher may leap from the pitcher’s plate, land with the non-pivot foot and with a continuous motion deliver the ball to the batter. The pivot foot may follow through with the pitcher’s continuous motion.
NOTE 1: It is not a step if the pitcher slides their pivot foot in any direction on the pitcher’s plate, provided contact is maintained.
NOTE 2: The pitcher’s push off to drag, or leap must start from the pitcher’s plate. The pitcher must not crow hop or push off from any place other than the pitcher’s plate.
NOTE 3: All movement of the pitching arm must be continuous as the pitcher steps, pushes or leaps from the pitcher’s plate.

NCAA
RULE 10 Pitching
10.5 Step/Stride
10.5.4 Leaping is not allowed. The pitcher may not become airborne on the initial drive from the pitcher’s plate. The pivot foot must slide/drag on the ground.
10.5.5 The pitcher is not allowed to hop or drag to a replant (crowhop), gain a second starting point and push off their pivot foot. Once having lost contact with the pitcher’s plate, the pivot foot may trail on the ground but may not bear weight again until the pitch is released.

Sorry I don't have a current USA rulebook.

Just in case there were any questions. :unsure:

They all read different, but all say somewhat the same thing. 🧘‍♂️ Maybe we should meditate and bring clarity on the matter. lol.

This is the first time I’ve seen someone purposely teach replanting, to get the lowerbody into the pitch.
 

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Jun 29, 2021
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They all read different, but all say somewhat the same thing. 🧘‍♂️ Maybe we should meditate and bring clarity on the matter. lol.

This is the first time I’ve seen someone purposely teach replanting, to get the lowerbody into the pitch.
That's how the pitching trainer she mentioned earlier in the video teaches. It's a horrible way to teach young girls to pitch. Every girl she teaches has their back heel pointed towards the plate.
 

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