Dd drill and tee swing

[Tqracer53]

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Coach's Eye


Think she coiling a little better maybe front hip needs to go forward more first not sure. Thanks for help hope going in right direction.

 

[Steve Huff]

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Coach's Eye
Think she coiling a little better maybe front hip needs to go forward more first not sure. Thanks for help hope going in right direction.

Personally I think she has made big improvements. many things are working well. However, the one thing that stands out is that "bat wrap" around the back of her head. You can't hit the ball until that bat head gets the zone. That being the case she will end up with a very long swing path, and have to start committing early. You don't want bat drag, or to cause a sweeping swing. Right now this swing will make her weak on inside pitches. Her bat head is starting in front of her left shoulder, closer to the pitcher than she is.

There is a tendency to move the bat head way to much behind the head. I do a drill that some may freak over. But I like the result. I stand behind and in back of the right shoulder of DD and hold the bat tip. When she loads she feels the bat head pull from my fingers. I want her hands to move to load, but I would like the bat head to be more stationary. The wrists cock, everything loads, but the bat head stays pretty much where it started. So I hold the bat tip and see if she can load and swing without pulling the bat head out of my fingers during the load phase. I do this off of the batting tee. If you do it, walk through it so you are in the right position and she can take a full swing. Also, your fingers need to hold the bat head right at the tip. Work it out.

 

[Tqracer53]

Guess that's my fault so less bat wrap we can do that.

 

[Steve Huff]

Guess that's my fault so less bat wrap we can do that.

Ok, and one little point. Get that bat out of her ear! That makes her slow on inside pitches. There should be an inverted "V" between her elbows which she has, and there should be a "V" between her hands and shoulder. That will help with extension on inside pitches. On inside pitches you have to get your hands inside the ball. So your hands must shoot through in front of your body to hit the ball on the "sweet spot". When the hands are that close, they can't move easily through to that spot, the hands get pinched up against the body, and I can think of no more effective pitch than a rise-ball or screwball on the hands to show the hole in her swing. I am embarrassed to say this, but I had a girl named Sandy form California who came to Utah to play ball. Her fiance was a baseball player at Cal Poly as I recall. I can't remember Sandy's last name. Her swing was very similar to your daughters. She could hit to RF, but really struggled inside. She was also stubborn and her fiance knew everything. I set up a pitching machine and threw balls right on the inside corner. She couldn't even attempt to swing for fear of hitting her hands. It took about 6-8 pitches and she was ready to change. I fixed her bat head and load position as I explained before. I had too! Pam wanted to cut her and take away her scholarship for the next year. A girl named Jen held the school record for HR with 13. Sandy hit 21 HR that year and had no trouble pulling the ball.

 

[Tqracer53]

So hands up a little and straight back not wrap around will work on that thanks.

 

[Steve Huff]

So hands up a little and straight back not wrap around will work on that thanks.

What I would say is hands out! I don't think the hands are too low, just too close to the ear. And the wrap issue In another week or two, just wait! You will see how your teaching is working.

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

There are quite a few things wrong with this .....

Why is the rear elbow so far displaced from the body?

If you are going to mimic a swing in slow motion, why not take a live swing that you would like to replicate, and slow that down ... and try to replicate that swing when slowed down. This swing here may look like someone's slow motion perception of a good swing, but it is not a good swing.

 

[softballphreak]

What is the meaning here? It is a real confession on my part, because I wouldn't post her name anyway. I was just trying to remember and couldn't. It has been more than 20 years. Does that trouble you?

That's a spam or advertisement post. Don't ever click on the links, that's why they do it.

 

[theaddition]

There are quite a few things wrong with this .....

Why is the rear elbow so far displaced from the body?

I think you and I (most likely most others as well) oppose each other on this issue.
My belief is that the elbow should not be tucked(as close as a lot of people teach) but rather there should always be a varying degree of space between the back elbow and the torso. This allows the arms and subsequently the hands
more room to "do their thing" by freeing up space for the arms (led by hands at that point) to get through quicker. JMHO.
Here are some stills from LaFlippin's Youtube channel demonstrating this at all different pitch locations(all are MLBers):

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Down the middle
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Outside

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inside

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

I think you and I (most likely most others as well) oppose each other on this issue.
My belief is that the elbow should not be tucked(as close as a lot of people teach) but rather there should always be a varying degree of space between the back elbow and the torso. This allows the arms and subsequently the hands
more room to "do their thing" by freeing up space for the arms (led by hands at that point) to get through quicker. JMHO.
Here are some stills from LaFlippin's Youtube channel demonstrating this at all different pitch locations(all are MLBers):

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Down the middle
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Outside

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inside

The distance of the rear elbow from the body is a function of pitch location ... inside/outside. If you teach what this girl is doing then you hinder inside/outside plate coverage, among other things. It's bad.

As for the hands doing their thing ... your photos show hitters allowing their top hand to do their thing ... notice how the top hand wrist is bent backwards to make a throw ... exactly what this girl is not doing.

This here is wrong in so many ways. You do not square the hips in a false bat lag position and then push the barrel from there. No no no.

Pros place a great deal of work on 'lag' and 'extension' ... and the two objectives are highly related. You "throw" ... you don't "push". Williams spoke of the use of his hands being at 100% for a good reason. You throw the barrel head ... you throw the hands (Pujols cue, ... and a cue for many others) ... you do so and "lag" and and have the barrel thrown to "extension". notice the bend in the top hand wrist in your photos and the clips below ... and then look at this girl's push ... very different actions.

You "throw". You state that you are a Yeagerite. Yeager preaches "throwing" the barrel. Yeager preaches making full use of the top hand/wrist. Yeager preaches throwing from the very base of his drills, through to the complete swing. Yeager preaches finishing the top hand ... finishing off the throwing arm ... resisting the upper torso to perform a "throw". If Yeager were to see the above he'd probably think "I need a better throwing arm".

[Note: swing clips added in post below ... wouldn't fit in this post]