Are we trying to micromanage the pitcher's form?

[Stand an]

Great thread, great topic.

Yes, we are micromanaging. Much the same way you have to micromanage a garden. Plant it, weed it, water it, Oh my god look at that zucchini!!!! Got to keep your eyes on the zucchini!

I digress, yes, micromanage.

 

[FastPitchCat]

A year ago, i had a list of 10 must-haves for DD's pitching. A year later, that list has dwindled to 3.
micro-manage? yes, but it's becoming less and less as DD matures and learns to self-correct.

 

[Amy in AZ.]

Mine is becoming less and less, but I still don't like HE and a door knob release.

 

[Doug Romrell]

A year ago, i had a list of 10 must-haves for DD's pitching. A year later, that list has dwindled to 3.
micro-manage? yes, but it's becoming less and less as DD matures and learns to self-correct.

For me the term "micro-manage" is significantly different than focused valuable instruction on a very few things (1-3) at a time (short periods of time, with little if any instruction during games if you're the pitchers pitching coach and the head coach. I believe the instruction should be zero during the game if you're not the pitcher's pitching coach.

 

[Doug Romrell]

Mine is becoming less and less, but I still don't like HE and a door knob release.

Doorknob release??

 

[Doug Romrell]

And knowing how to "manage" the goal is something an EXPERIENCED PC knows how to do.........

Not just someone with a daughter who pitched in college.........Or someone who "worked with a few kids".........I'm talking about devotion and commitment to be the best pitching coach..........

Micro.......Macro.........Whatever.........

Managing development is the key.........

Of course, all who are pitching coaches are, over time, becoming more and more experienced. The question is, are they getting THE RIGHT KIND of experience. There are many "pitching coaches" out there with many more years of experience who generally do not teach what Boardmember, Javasource, Pauly, et.al., would have them teach. Now on the other hand, understanding the stuff Boardmember, Java, Pauly... advocate is one thing. However, the managing of the goal is likely a scarcer ability and much more difficult. I think it's really what separates these true experts from the rest of us.

I guess my point is this.... Years of "experience" doesn't necessarily translate into "manage the goal" as it should be.

 

[Slappers]

Never mind...

 

[Doug Romrell]

It is my opinion, and I don't think I'm alone in this regard, that those successful hello-elbow pitchers would likely have been even better had they transitioned early in their pitching journey to the pitching mechanics that are advocated by the best experts on this site. Yes, that's my opinion.

I do believe there is likely more incidence of shoulder damage with the push-the-ball-down-the-back-side style (true hello elbow to me) than there is with the internal rotation style of pitching.

 

[Doug Romrell]

Never mind...

Why did you change your post to "Never mind...."? What you originally posted was valid. I guess my response pinched a nerve. That wasn't my intent. I thought this was simply an exchange of ideas.

 

[Slappers]

I must have edited it while you were typing. No offense here. I just didn't see the need to continue the argument as I am trying to get better with that on this site....