Scap load

ian said:

Getting the body in position to turn the barrel may help. This is a pretty good video on overlap.

https://youtu.be/NDfhDAiYL-I

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julray said:

Thanks RD.. this is what I am looking for, simple, actionable, and practical drills,

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DGoggin said:

I don’t see turn the barrel in that clip. I see pull back elbow back to retract the scap and then rotate. No forced wrist action just the rotation and getting direction with back knee to the pitcher leading upper body.

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rdbass said:

This clip:

What's making the top of the barrel form a C then.
If you don't 'see' the turning of the barrel that's OK

I think it happens but not as a forced move - just a result of rotation into the ball. The back elbow moves into the slot after good scap pull back and following the hip turn and getting good direction with the back knee...causing the C of the bat path. I don’t see it as an independent turn of the wrists. But clearly I may be missing something. Seems to me that the elbow slotting after the scap being pulled back creates the look of turning the barrel. Not an independent move to turn the wrists. Maybe we are saying the same thing?

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DGoggin said:

I don’t see turn the barrel in that clip. I see pull back elbow back to retract the scap and then rotate. No forced wrist action just the rotation and getting direction with back knee to the pitcher leading upper body.

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julray said:

Thanks for replying. I have a strong, athletic DD who has tons of bat speed, but she is not very coordinated. I tried the "turn the barrel" last year in the preseason and she ended up having her worse year at the plate yet. I tried several drills with a bat and without a bat(broomstick, turning the barrel to hit the floor behind her). I watched all kinds of videos, listened to everybodies advice and implemented it in our training. I think I may of made things too complex. I need a simple drill with specifics so I know I am not misleading/misteaching her how to do this. In previous years she was one of the strongest if not the strongest hitters on the team. After teaching her to turn the barrel last year I cannot get her swing back to where it was... So now I guess I have to continue teaching turning the barrel. As you can tell I am a little skeptic and hesitant about this method, I'd imagine my DD is as well and rightfully so based on results. How can I integrate this in our training without her really having to think about or concentrate on turning the barrel.

One other thing.. when attempting to do this last year I found she was under everything. Almost like she was thinking turning the barrel too literal and it would end up being a steep angle (90 degree ferris wheel) that she could not recover from. And her back knee just started collapsing which also added to getting under everything

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4 girl's dad said:

Watch the hands

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Buttermaker said:

Same girl using different approaches to turn the barrel

I suggest using the handset (neck slot) on the left. Everyone tends to over cook the turning the barrel from an upright or tipped barrel position.

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julray said:

So from the neckslot I can still swing or turn the barrel just by slotting my elbow. What are some teaching points to ensure hands are being used to turn the barrel

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