Who's mistake?

[3girls]

Throw was‘t bad, the catcher being out of position and then not catching the throw resulted in the missed opportunity.

A throw glove side would have been perfect and the catchers position could be improved, but that’s softball. Just things to work on.

is the coaches kid the catcher?

 

[ANNASDAD]

Throw was‘t bad, the catcher being out of position and then not catching the throw resulted in the missed opportunity.

A throw glove side would have been perfect and the catchers position could be improved, but that’s softball. Just things to work on.

is the coaches kid the catcher?

How can you possibly say the throw wasn't bad? The 1B caught the ball glove side AND had momentum towards home to go with the throw, she just short sided the throw, looks like she almost gave up on it? Everything lined up perfectly for her to be able to knock the mitt off of that catcher's hand (glove side)!

That 1B would greatly benefit from the fun little "knock the helmet off of the bucket at home" drill!

 

[Eric F]

I'm going to go with "both" here. I don't have a big issue with where the C set up, but it could be a little closer to the plate. 1B's throw was on the opposite side of the C's body from her mitt, causing her to turn away from the incoming runner. This is a bad body position if there is an impact with the runner, and there is a lot of arm movement required to make the tag after catching the ball. These factors increase the likelihood of a botched play. A throw in a better spot, and it's probably an easy out. All that said, this ball was catchable, and the C needed to put more focus on making the catch before making the tag.

At the apparent age and level of play, ripping into either of these players is a coaching fail. Their idea was right, but the execution needs some work. Make sure the players understand how they could have done it better, and maybe put some work into it at the next practice.

 

[radness]

How can you possibly say the throw wasn't bad?



The 1B caught the ball glove side AND had momentum towards home to go with the throw, she just short sided the throw, looks like she almost gave up on it? Everything lined up perfectly for her to be able to knock the mitt off of that catcher's hand (glove side)!

That 1B would greatly benefit from the fun little "knock the helmet off of the bucket at home" drill!

Because the throw was on target to the plate.

Had the catcher set up facing the throw...
it could have been catch ball tag to the left side of body.

Instead catcher set up sideways
*With her body between the throw and the tag.
Caught the ball twisting to her right.
Did twist/spin move to her left to tag runner.
And then dropped the ball.

(Yes i understand throw to glove side.
But the catchers glove side was actually on the backside of the play. )

Also especially at home
would not want the throw further up the line then necessary.

Will comment imo
cut-offs should also face the throw, not be already positioned sideways, because sideways cuts in half defensive range.
Ok to wait and see if throw is in line already and then turn sideways into cut off throw.
*Same with pick-offs.
Face the throw.

 

[3girls]

How can you possibly say the throw wasn't bad? The 1B caught the ball glove side AND had momentum towards home to go with the throw, she just short sided the throw, looks like she almost gave up on it? Everything lined up perfectly for her to be able to knock the mitt off of that catcher's hand (glove side)!

That 1B would greatly benefit from the fun little "knock the helmet off of the bucket at home" drill!

The throw was down, but just opposite side Of the body. if the catcher was set up right, she still makes the play. It could have been better, but one to the backstop is a bad throw.

 

[texasck1]

is the coaches kid the catcher?

That was going to be my question too. It seems like relevant info as to the coaches reaction.

 

[erniekru]

I originally thought that the ball was a short hop throw, but looking at the video in slow-mo, the ball never touched the ground. I personally like the set up position, but to me it looked like a catcher trying to make too quick of a tag without securing the ball. It happens, but this is absolutely an error on the catcher.

Unfortunately, it is common for coaches to light up catchers for missed plays at the plate. The lesson here is take the heat, practice practice practice and get better.

For DD's team, plays at the plate are EVERYTHING to the coach.

 

[Eric F]

Because the throw was on target to the plate.

Had the catcher set up facing the throw...
it could have been catch ball tag to the left side of body.

Instead she set up sideways *With her body between the throw and the tag.
Caught the ball on her right.
Did spin move to her left to tag runner.
And then dropped the ball.


(Yes i understand throw glove side.
But the catchers glove side was actually on the backside of the play. )


Also especially at home
wouldnt want the throw further up the line then necessary.

Will comment imo
cut-offs should not be already positioned sideways because its cuts in half defensive range.
Ok to wait and see if throw is in line already and then turn sideways into cut off throw.
*Same with pick-offs.
Face the throw.

I have to strongly disagree with you here. I don't want my catcher turning the protected side of her body away from the runner. Plant that left foot with the toes facing the runner, and leave it there (unless you need to move your feet to get to the ball). This catcher's body turn to reach the throw puts her in a vulnerable position. Setting up facing the throw also puts her in a vulnerable position.

Doing it right...


Doing it wrong...


Starting at 0:12 is a series of plays at the plate where my DD keeps her left leg with the protected side facing the runner while handling some off line throws. Granted a throw from 1B can make it more challenging if the C has to reach to their right.


I think we can agree that off-line throws can be a problem, and how a C handles those while staying safe is an important thing to work on.

 

[John 800]

Nobody asked, but I will add this anyway: your mind sometimes plays tricks on you and your brain doesn’t see what your eyes do, it fooled me till I slowed it down so I understand the coach getting the impression that it was a worse throw than it was. (Can I get some support from umpires? LOL) depends how the coach talked to her as to weather or not he was out of line or just mistaken.

 

[_MIA_]

I mean in reality from where the RF was throwing that, and the age of the kids (14's ?), that throw should have been going all the way through anyway...