barrel/hand pivot point, a.k.a TTB

[clemenslee1]

I dont see how(edit) Acuna could check swing if he was doing this. (Where he says Im doing this with my hands as hard as I can right at the beginnig)

No different than any other type of swing. You still have the rest of the body to put the breaks on the best it can. At times it can be tough to do no matter which system you choose to model the swing afterboth fail at times when launched.

 

[FP26]

This is a great little vid.

Is everyone in the TTB camp so sure that this is not a floating barrel?

Right now I see him getting his arms on plane with relatively passive hands. I dont see how he can check swing like that if he is throwing the barrel with his hands like TM says.

You make it sound like TTB does not utilize float. Is that accurate? If so I suggest you continue to study TTB.

The acceleration of the barrel and the direction of the acceleration makes it a perfect example of TTB to me. Gravity alone will not make the barrel accelerate that quickly.

 

[Rolling Hard]

Well, thank for sharing. Now I know why I don't like him. He is do it my way or the highway! I don't think BB swing is for everybody. I don't think you can or should teach a 11 year old girl or boy to swing like that. I don't even consider him the GOAT. Who know where he would have been without the aid of steroids. Not as good, that is for sure.

 

[Eric F]

You make it sound like TTB does not utilize float. Is that accurate? If so I suggest you continue to study TTB.

The acceleration of the barrel and the direction of the acceleration makes it a perfect example of TTB to me. Gravity alone will not make the barrel accelerate that quickly.

Agreed. The action of TTB at "go" utilizes handle torque, gravity, and rotational forces to accelerate the barrel as quickly as possible, and keep accelerating it through contact, maximizing quickness and velocity. I can't fathom how someone wouldn't want those things.

 

[Eric F]

Well, thank for sharing. Now I know why I don't like him. He is do it my way or the highway! I don't think BB swing is for everybody. I don't think you can or should teach a 11 year old girl or boy to swing like that. I don't even consider him the GOAT. Who know where he would have been without the aid of steroids. Not as good, that is for sure.

I did the same thing for a long time - I discounted what TM was saying because I couldn't tolerate his persona. The best thing that happened to my DD was working with an instructor (Mike-Coach-Q) who understands and teaches HLP mechanics, but isn't an ***hole. I wish my DD had started working with him sooner.

 

[Rolling Hard]

Aggressively turning the barrel may/ could dump the barrel especially in younger hitters. It is obvious that not all great hitters need to aggressively TTB. It is not a must do. How much advantage is there to aggressively TTB? I would guess 2 to 5 mph bat speed.

 

[FP26]

Aggressively turning the barrel may/ could dump the barrel especially in younger hitters. It is obvious that not all great hitters need to aggressively TTB. It is not a must do. How much advantage is there to aggressively TTB? I would guess 2 to 5 mph bat speed.

Bold above... If the process is not done correctly, this could absolutely be the result. At the same time, if the hitter is not aggressive enough, the result could be bat drag. Like anything else, it all comes down to doing it correctly. The problem with these discussions is that it ultimately becomes a political debate where some people are leaning towards the far right and others are leaning towards the far left. When in reality, the truth is someplace in between.

 

[Eric F]

Aggressively turning the barrel may/ could dump the barrel especially in younger hitters. It is obvious that not all great hitters need to aggressively TTB. It is not a must do. How much advantage is there to aggressively TTB? I would guess 2 to 5 mph bat speed.

You're making excuses. Barrel dump is not an automatic result of TTB. It's a faulty application of the concept. If the hitter is having barrel dump issues, the instruction needs adjusting.

This young hitter is doing just fine... https://twitter.com/andyEY26.

Why would you not want more bat speed, especially if it also comes with more quickness?

 

[TDS]

Different movements.. One is ttb by supinating the rear forearm, while the other is swinging down to...

 

[MikeP]

You're making excuses. Barrel dump is not an automatic result of TTB. It's a faulty application of the concept. If the hitter is having barrel dump issues, the instruction needs adjusting.

This young hitter is doing just fine... https://twitter.com/andyEY26.

Why would you not want more bat speed, especially if it also comes with more quickness?

I'm glad you posted that, I've been trying to find that pvc wall gadget on here in a post to get the dimensions! Wouldn't happen to remember a post where it was discussed do you?