barrel/hand pivot point, a.k.a TTB

[Work=wins]

The obliques contract against the legs being leveraged and rotation is the result.

must have scanned over this... well said.

 

[Bonesaw]

must have scanned over this... well said.

I agree. Obliques rotate the torso. How could you agree with this but say obliques rotate the hips.

 

[Work=wins]

I agree. Obliques rotate the torso. How could you agree with this but say obliques rotate the hips.

the rotation is reciprocal. Against the legs.

 

[Shawn]

Joey Myers did some test where the hitter is hung in the air while hitting. I believe the results were that the hitter lost power but much less than one might think.

Where is Shawn?

I haven't seen/heard about that test. I've always wondered how a hitter might fair if they hit while standing on ice.

 

[_MIA_]

I haven't seen/heard about that test. I've always wondered how a hitter might fair if they hit while standing on ice.

Somebody queue up that Pujols clip of him slipping..More than likely if baseball was played on ice they would all go to no stride and scissor

 

[rdbass]

I've always wondered how a hitter might fair if they hit while standing on ice.

Apparently, not well.....this gif says a lot for the rear leg not being 'important' before, during, and after contact.

 

[Cornbread]

What mechanic plants the front heel?

 

[rdbass]

The swing.....

Posted:mudvnine....
The hips can move (be moved) in two different ways...

1. By the legs when for instance you stand with your arms above your head, and move/twist your hips. This is a "closed-chain" movement.

2. With the obliques, like when you hang by your arms on a bar with your feet off the ground, and move/twist your hips. This is an "open-chain" movement.

Both are used in the swing.

1. The legs will start to turn the hips forward ever so slightly just before or prior to swing launch (and after the hips have "driven" (steered) the swing forward), which induces the very final "stretch/separation" of the obliques.

2. The now fully stretched obliques then take over to "power" the hips and thusly the swing forward.

3. Which in turn continues to move the swing from the bottom up, as the arms get pulls into "tornado", and the hands that had been "driving" (steering" the bat/barrel to alignment are the final part that gets "whipped" into the swing.

Otherwise known in some parts of the baseball world as the "sequence" of the swing....load, stretch/separate, launch/whip....or not.

 

[TDS]

Core not holding up very well without legs

Legs are used just not leveraged against the ground in this movement.

 

[Cornbread]

I love how threads evolve lol