Swing Plane and upright position at contact

[Buttermaker]

Take a broom stick or something about that long. Snap the broom stick so you turn the handle end straight up as quickly as you can. The other end depending on its length may hit the floor at your feet. Get good at that. Then as you snap it turn the rear leg forward at the same exact time. What happens?

 

[Spartans21]

The bottom hand does not pull the knob straight up ..... the bottom hand flattens to the swing plane, and the pronation involved in the bottom hand flattening is what I believe butter means by 'straight up' ... but it is indeed not 'straight up'.

See if you can see the bottom hand become flattened to the swing plane early on in this swing ....

Bonds has a significant tip to the SS to consider, he needs to get to a position to launch from........

Telling kids to turn there knob to their nose or straight up is a great way to get kids to use their forearms, to learn to swivel....

 

[Spartans21]

Hmm...That's a good question. Front side Lat/scap should be supporting that front arm action. Some might even say that's where the focus will go at some point in a hitter's progression when the hitter is searching for a feel in there "forearms".... Or at least it should... Some might call it shoulder bypass....

Do you teach your hitters a specific action with their front side scap?

 

[DRDRODD]

Anyone know what this kid is attempting here?

I believe the young man is attempting to get the feel of his pelvis falling behind the ball of his femur "hip slip" or "Falling off the cliff".


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[julray]

Julray, do you have any game swing examples of the bottom-hand/top-hand being palm-down/palm-up ... as in the palms physically being parallel to one another? Please post them. I especially wish to see this occurring 'early'.

Sorry, I am only asking you to explain yourself so I have a better understanding... I asked if your bottom hand palm is facing down, how can your top hand palm not be facing up.. now I don't mean literally parallel to the ground, it all depends on the torso tilt as well which was already established.

 

[julray]

Bonds has a significant tip to the SS to consider, he needs to get to a position to launch from........

Telling kids to turn there knob to their nose or straight up is a great way to get kids to use their forearms, to learn to swivel....

I asked this previously but it may of been lost in all the other posts in this thread... Is forearm strength a legitimate concern? We are talking about a 12 year old here, can they realistically control and swivel a bat truly by using their forearms

 

[Eric F]

I asked this previously but it may of been lost in all the other posts in this thread... Is forearm strength a legitimate concern? We are talking about a 12 year old here, can they realistically control and swivel a bat truly by using their forearms

How big and strong is a 12yo? As far as I can tell, they come in a LOT of different sizes. The one in my house is bigger and stronger than her 18yo sister.

As long as the bat size is appropriate, it shouldn't be an issue.

 

[julray]

When teaching kids the move of jerking back, rearward barrel, or wack a mole move , you must be careful. The swivel will get bypassed and poof you have a flat barrel, bat drag and a lazy bat. I do not like this cue of turn knob to nose at all. You dont simply apply rearward top hand torque. If you do not swivel you are done

How would you explain it to a 12 year old (or any age for that matter) who is new to this concept? Do you any drills to reinforce this?

 

[tjintx]

Ethier....

MIGGY....

Lead arm rises up and away from the body(supported by the front Lat/scap) BUT doesn't turn forward(rotate) with the pelvis...YET
The rear arm goes under the front arm supported by the rear Lat/scap
There is a torgueing in the rib cage area that allows time for the body to work underneath(separation).....X Factor stuff



Oh, and for Spartans....
The lead side Lat/scap area needs to work to lift and extend so the rib cage doesn't follow the pelvis right away, equal and opposite of the rear side Lat/scap pulling back and down.. These 2 action need to be balanced.


both Lats/scaps pulling back/down in the clip below, The swing is in the shoulders....no separation... "No shoulder bypass"

 

[tjintx]

Rear arm goes under the hands. ( not the lead arm literally speaking, to much and to many of these horrendous cues where we are just supposed to figure out YOUR MEANING, BE LITERAL, BE ACCURATE , TO MUCH HITTING SPEAK, TO MUCH TO GET CONFUSED , REAR ARM UNDER FRONT ARM, NOT REALLY ) Which is a no teach if you have the triangle rocking

I would grade you but I'm not sure have been in class enough.. I give you a 45% grade just for showing up today...if you can spell your name correctly I'll give you an extra 5%...


Did you say spinal axis? AH I get it. welcome.. keep it cordial.....