Was going to tell you you're a brave man using your boat as a backstop; but seeing what our softball schedule looks like for this summer, that may be the best use for mine, too!!
Do you still use/recommend the whip hit?
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- Oct 19, 2009
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If folks wish to believe that the ball flight will be the judge of using the whipit gadget correctly, then please think again ... and please use the Hanson Principle. This whipit swing here had the ball flying straight to the center of the net … but the swing is anything but good.
If you are insinuating that the Hansen Principal is the key to improving this young ladies swing I will disagree, she needs instruction from a competent hitting coach. Then she may can watch/review good hitters to fine tune her swing.
The proper tool in the hands of a master craftsman can create a masterpiece, but in the hands of the inexperienced can be a danger to themselves and others.
FiveFrameSwing
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Let me be more clear so that you don't have to insinuate anything.
Bad instruction, such as the instruction supplied in the whiphit manual, leads to the swing you see here .... a swing that the Hanson Principle quickly suggests has issues.
FiveFrameSwing
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Still seeing discussions on virtually anything other than the proper instruction on the use of the gadget.
The ball flight on this swing here is clear ... and to help an arrow has been added.
Yet the swing remains what it is. It isn't a swing that folks that use the Hanson Principle would be targeting.
The ball flight on this swing here is clear ... and to help an arrow has been added.
Yet the swing remains what it is. It isn't a swing that folks that use the Hanson Principle would be targeting.
To begin the swing allow the lead arm elbow to move on a linear path with the elbow making a direct move forward about 3 to 4 inches. Your hand should follow the elbow forward
As your elbow moves forward it will draw your hands through and the WhipHit ball on the end of the rope will “whip” towards the tee.
Use both hands and maintain the forward elbow move to whip the ball through the swing.
start your swing by pulling your lead arm elbow forward so it pulls the ball out of your back hand and hits the ball off the tee.
I don't see the problem. This hitter is doing everything that the instructions says to do.
Maybe 'whip hit' needs to add 'hands lead the hips'.
As your elbow moves forward it will draw your hands through and the WhipHit ball on the end of the rope will “whip” towards the tee.
Use both hands and maintain the forward elbow move to whip the ball through the swing.
start your swing by pulling your lead arm elbow forward so it pulls the ball out of your back hand and hits the ball off the tee.
I don't see the problem. This hitter is doing everything that the instructions says to do.
Maybe 'whip hit' needs to add 'hands lead the hips'.
Just to clarify Michael Bastian is behind the whip hit and the web site with instructions. Clinics Hi posted about Howard Carrier, yes he invented it, but has nothing to do with it under it's current ownership, nor Does Bustos. I agree with what Richard posted a good tool, but only if you use it with a good instructor. You can read in his blog today about his pro's and con's.
FiveFrameSwing
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I hear you JBrooks. It probably comes across to you that someone wishes to keep that information a secret.
Seven pages into the thread and that information still hasn’t come forth … and it isn’t like it hasn’t been asked for.
Even more bizarre, the instructions given are clearly damaging to a good swing, yet these people that wish to be helpful in recommending the product don’t seem to have the time to describe how to use it properly. They do have time to cast diversions though. Makes one wonder how helpful they truly wish to be.
FiveFrameSwing
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Here's the thing SBF, folks don't really care where the 'bad' information is coming from. People simply want good information and then an opportunity to seek verification. They don't care if there are posts elsewhere from a particular hitting school that virtually duplicates this improper instruction. It just doesn't matter to them. You can point fingers if you wish, but that doesn't get the information out there. People are after good information. So feel free to come forward with that good information.
- Oct 14, 2008
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This is just my opinion so take it for what its worth every swing I see here is upper body dominated, no lower half at all, what good does it do to teach hand path if the body dosent help power the swing. My instructions for the use of whip hit are pretty simple.
Hips and hands are loaded, Separation and drive to weight shift, hips lead, back hand turns, front elbow forward and up with front hand turning the barrel to contact. Letting the body or back side power the swing not the hands, the hands deliver the whip hit to the ball..... not power the swing
Despite a few different que words I really dont see why you would swing a whip hit any different than a bat. Here to me is why the whip hit is so important and can, given the correct instruction, make a difference in the swing. A regular bat has between 4 to 6 inches of sweet spot, a miss hit can still be a decent hit. With the whip hit, you have a sweet spot the size of a nickel. You have immediate feed back, whether you are around the ball pulling the front shoulder, rolling the back hand past contact, dumping the barrel. Used and instructed properly I believe it to be a beneficial aid to show correct hand path.
Tim
Hips and hands are loaded, Separation and drive to weight shift, hips lead, back hand turns, front elbow forward and up with front hand turning the barrel to contact. Letting the body or back side power the swing not the hands, the hands deliver the whip hit to the ball..... not power the swing
Despite a few different que words I really dont see why you would swing a whip hit any different than a bat. Here to me is why the whip hit is so important and can, given the correct instruction, make a difference in the swing. A regular bat has between 4 to 6 inches of sweet spot, a miss hit can still be a decent hit. With the whip hit, you have a sweet spot the size of a nickel. You have immediate feed back, whether you are around the ball pulling the front shoulder, rolling the back hand past contact, dumping the barrel. Used and instructed properly I believe it to be a beneficial aid to show correct hand path.
Tim
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C'mon FFS, stop your grandstanding. Everyone's agreed here and numerous times previously that the instruction manual sucks. However, you also know that, with proper instruction, the device can be used effectively to address hand path issues. However, like with any tool, using it (or not) isn't going to guarantee or deny a player a spot on a college roster.
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