Two years ago, one of our pitchers got called for IP (leaping) 3 times in one game....8U Districts. That's the only time I've seen leap/crow-hop called. I have seen IP for double-tap with the hands called numerous times.
Rules are the rules....unless they aren't???
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Two years ago, one of our pitchers got called for IP (leaping) 3 times in one game....8U Districts. That's the only time I've seen leap/crow-hop called. I have seen IP for double-tap with the hands called numerous times.
Two tournaments so far this year, where I've umpired 16 games. In those games, I've called about ten illegal pitches. Roughly 5 for leaping, 3 for stepping onto the rubber with the hands joined, 1 for a double touch of the hands, and 1 for the stride foot sliding back off the rubber before the pitch.
In most cases, the coach was incredulous because his pitcher "had never been called for that before". Also in most cases, the pitcher immediately adjusted and pitched legally from there on in.
In most cases, the coach was incredulous because his pitcher "had never been called for that before". Also in most cases, the pitcher immediately adjusted and pitched legally from there on in.
Come up to Columbus and play ASA!
My dd hasn't played USSSA since 12u. We're at Lasers this coming weekend. Will you be there? We're at Civic Park, 18u.
Yep. I'll be at Whitehall Community park.
It truly is a shame that at any time you can go to the park and see several illegal pitches being throw every game. I wonder what else the umpires don't call correctly? And to think, all this time I thought we had issues here.
Maybe it is just a regional thing. I know that here it is called pretty dang good with respect to illegal pitches. I expect that when I pay an umpire to do his/her job, that they will do his/her job. That includes calling illegal pitches, when pitches are, in fact, illegal.
Maybe it is just a regional thing. I know that here it is called pretty dang good with respect to illegal pitches. I expect that when I pay an umpire to do his/her job, that they will do his/her job. That includes calling illegal pitches, when pitches are, in fact, illegal.
My thoughts...
1) A lot of 12U games would slow to a crawl if umpires called every IP, especially C-level.
2) By not calling IPs, umpires are essentially condoning the actions.
3) A lot college pitchers are illegal because they have been pitching that way since 10U.
4) College umpires miss a lot of IPs.
5) I think umpires at 12U and younger should warn the pitchers, and their coaches, and start calling IPs at 14U and above.
6) This would give pitchers fair warning to fix their mechanics before it becomes an issue.
7) The higher the level TB, the more closely the umpires should watch for IP.
No. And from what I've heard about it, maybe it's a good thing I wasn't!
I was in Columbus, at Berliner Park, for the huge "Bat Wars" tournament they had going on.
ConorMacleod
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He neither admitted she was leaping, nor did he say she wasn't leaping. When I said she was leaping, his exact quote was; "I can see where here toe is dragging. As long as her toe drags she is ok". But an Umpire the next day of the tourney stated to me in a conversation; "Yes, she is illegal every single pitch".
ConorMacleod
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I did reread the rules, and she was still illegal. I understand if there's a deep impression, as long as her foot is parallel with the pitching rubber, she is legal. This girl was quite obvious. When I asked the base umpire, he stated; "Home plate ump says she is legal, so she is legal". It was a one time conversation between innings with the umpires. I didn't linger on the topic as long as I might have seemed. But it was still frustrating.
