Riseball spin clips

[sluggers]

Here is a link to a better quality video. Download it and watch it on your computer.

http://jmp.sh/KWD4OtFhttp://jmp.sh/KWD4OtF

 

[Edy]

here is a decent clip of a Haeger RB.



I have good tools to grab these now so if anyone has specific shots from the games where ESPN shows the close up the of the pitch like these, let me know and I will capture them. Just post the inning, which half of the inning, and which at bat and I can take it from there. ESPN likes to show these types of replays after the out is recorded and especially if a half inning ends on a strikeout.

JJ,

Please, can you capture this one with your tools??

LSU vs Auburn, may 28, first inning, top half, second batter, third strike.

Slow motion replay with camera behind catcher. Good chance it's a 1-7 backspin, but my copy is low definition



Thanks!

 

[Edy]

Lauren Heager in slow motion (watch in 1080p)

 

[JJsqueeze]

JJ,

Please, can you capture this one with your tools??

LSU vs Auburn, may 28, first inning, top half, second batter, third strike.

Slow motion replay with camera behind catcher. Good chance it's a 1-7 backspin, but my copy is low definition

View attachment 8294

Thanks!

Here it is. These images are not nearly as good as the ones they show live during the broadcast on TV. On TV I can see the spin during these close ups quite well, but on the watch ESPN replays the quality is not as good, or my bandwidth or video chip is not good enough because I am not seeing the spin nearly as well.

I think we just need an army of bucket dads with Iphone 6s getting well lit spins from the bucket at 240 fps.


[video=youtube_share;msElUa_Pnlk]http://youtu.be/msElUa_Pnlk[/video]

 

[sluggers]

I think there is a nice slow motion shot of Hailey Wagner throwing a rise in the 6th and her throwing a "curve" in the 7th. (It didn't curve.)

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

Lauren Heager in slow motion (watch in 1080p)

I see it as mostly bullet spin.

 

[sluggers]

OMG, I agree with FFS...

"Fascinating captain. A strange world where all pitches have bullet spin, yet they have different names. Apparently, the life forms do not know how to use the terms "low, inside or high".

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

OMG, I agree with FFS...

"Fascinating captain. A strange world where all pitches have bullet spin, yet they have different names. Apparently, the life forms do not know how to use the terms "low, inside or high".

Given enough time you may eventually agree with BH, MW, FFS and many others on the drop/fb sameness as well.

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[sluggers]

Given enough time you may eventually agree with MW, FFS and many others on the drop/fb sameness as well.

Yep...when you finally see I'm right and you are wrong.

 

[Edy]

I just don't get it... is it that much difficult to see that the spins are so different (although both seem to be bullet like)?
Life is not just white and black.. there's also 50 shades of gray in between (sorry for the pun)

It sounds like we must have perfect backspin axis or perfect bulletspin axis to make a point..

Please compare the rise and the screwball axis.. The first is pointing up and the second is pointing down and to the right.. This may have something to do with the movement. Doesn't it?
Now compare this effect to the infamous gyroball (no, I'm trying to call a RB with a new name) The so called gyroball is a bulletspin ball that curves/drops/float depending on the direction the axis is tilted just before reaching the plate
OMG, that makes sense! Maybe the RB hasn't the perfect backspin axis but its axis is tilted by the pitcher's will and it gets lift from the effect (less than a pure backspin).

More here: http://baseball.physics.illinois.edu/PhysicsGyro.htm
And here: The Gyroball



As for the off speed pitch, it's clear to me the ball is NOT bulletspining.

Edit: just in case, if you can see that SB spinning purely sideways and/or the RB with pure backspin, please go see your doctor... you might need a pair of glasses