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I should have done a better job of communicating my point about hitting the outside pitch. I was frustrated with one of my hitters getting that cue today that didn't need it and I'm seeing that ALOT.
My original post was meant to say that you can also drive balls "out front" and I teach my hitters that "feel" although I have no problem making contact at their front HEEL instead of in front of front foot and that I really dislike the cue "let it travel" "see it deep" for the following reasons:
1) It's really a non teach unless your hitters are hitting balls into the pull side dugouts. If they have good hand path, its NEVER even a conversation.
2) Proper hand path you can still drive a ball out front in the opposite field gap. Bad hand path "more out/around" = rolling over.
3) If you have bad hand path, the cue of "let it travel" and "see it deep" is used by coaches mostly in front toss and tee where you can manipulate it but when the ball is live or moving much faster they try and "let it travel/get deep" and now everything is bad contact. Hitters still have the same load/stride timing when a change up comes vs. fastball.
4) When I put my hitters on a field with a tee and have them make contact with the tee at their front foot on the outside corner, they have higher exit speeds, further distance and closer to the gaps than if I put the ball deeper in their stance.
Having said ALL that, I think the video & Harold doesn't do a good job of explaining it and should have done my own video instead. I didn't think that the post would be seen by 160k and counting at this time (makes no sense).
All that to say, I should have done a better job with the post and explanation. I guess if I had posted: My hitters have "more" success feeling they make contact out front on the outside and I hate the cue of let it travel to fix hand path issues, there wouldn't be so much controversy. But I'm glad it was able to spark a good discussion.
As for the guy who said he hated my drill of "Put Out The Fire", I would love to know why. For some younger hitters (and even old) its a great way to simulate weight transfer just like the med ball toss drill that MANY big leaguers do. Not everyone has a med ball at their field or facility and I think its a creative backup plan for that. If it annoys your Facebook feed so much, just "unlike" my page. That'll solve the problem.
My original post was meant to say that you can also drive balls "out front" and I teach my hitters that "feel" although I have no problem making contact at their front HEEL instead of in front of front foot and that I really dislike the cue "let it travel" "see it deep" for the following reasons:
1) It's really a non teach unless your hitters are hitting balls into the pull side dugouts. If they have good hand path, its NEVER even a conversation.
2) Proper hand path you can still drive a ball out front in the opposite field gap. Bad hand path "more out/around" = rolling over.
3) If you have bad hand path, the cue of "let it travel" and "see it deep" is used by coaches mostly in front toss and tee where you can manipulate it but when the ball is live or moving much faster they try and "let it travel/get deep" and now everything is bad contact. Hitters still have the same load/stride timing when a change up comes vs. fastball.
4) When I put my hitters on a field with a tee and have them make contact with the tee at their front foot on the outside corner, they have higher exit speeds, further distance and closer to the gaps than if I put the ball deeper in their stance.
Having said ALL that, I think the video & Harold doesn't do a good job of explaining it and should have done my own video instead. I didn't think that the post would be seen by 160k and counting at this time (makes no sense).
All that to say, I should have done a better job with the post and explanation. I guess if I had posted: My hitters have "more" success feeling they make contact out front on the outside and I hate the cue of let it travel to fix hand path issues, there wouldn't be so much controversy. But I'm glad it was able to spark a good discussion.
As for the guy who said he hated my drill of "Put Out The Fire", I would love to know why. For some younger hitters (and even old) its a great way to simulate weight transfer just like the med ball toss drill that MANY big leaguers do. Not everyone has a med ball at their field or facility and I think its a creative backup plan for that. If it annoys your Facebook feed so much, just "unlike" my page. That'll solve the problem.
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