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If leveraged correctly yes. Non thought though.Yep I've felt that many times.. do you believe once you started this action there is no option left for the hitter to extend the hips into the ball?
If leveraged correctly yes. Non thought though.Yep I've felt that many times.. do you believe once you started this action there is no option left for the hitter to extend the hips into the ball?
TDS, I "think" and "feel" as though we might be having a breakthrough here, but rather than state that as fact before knowing for sure, I'm going to the source (novel idea, I know...lol), and I'd like to get some clarification from you first. Cool?The core pattern has the hands swinging "down to" from a leveraged hitting position.. Some see it as swinging against the hips. The under hood feel is the obliques contracting against the hips extending/rotating .. This is where trying to keep the barrel working within the s-plane allows this to happen naturally..
TDS, I "think" and "feel" as though we might be having a breakthrough here, but rather than state that as fact before knowing for sure, I'm going to the source (novel idea, I know...lol), and I'd like to get some clarification from you first. Cool?
So when you write that "The under hood feel is the obliques contracting against the hips extending/rotating", are stating that the "hips extending/rotating" is happening before "the obliques [start] contracting against" them? Or...
Is that stating that the "obliques [start] contracting" , and is what causes the "hips extending/rotating" as some are stating is the "feel" that they get?
Obviously I can certainly agree with one of those statements, and definitely not the other, or did I swing and miss completely with both of those questions, and you meant something completely different...and if so, could you please explain that to me? TIA
Wanna know for sure what moves what, and in what order, and not just "feel" what you "think" the earth is off past the horizon?Yep I've felt that many times.. do you believe once you started this action there is no option left for the hitter to extend the hips into the ball?
Also sounds like a great exercise to understand that feeling
So let me see if I'm understanding this correctly, you're saying that "the contraction" of the obliques...will pull or "rotate" the hips out of their "leveraged"/coiled "back" position? Or IOWs, the obliques ("core" as some say) are pulling on the hips from the top down?Mud, once leveraged fyb.. I feel the obliques contracting against the hips vs trying to rotate them.. IOW's not trying to rotate the hips but the hips will rotate as a result of the contraction from a leveraged position.
So let me see if I'm understanding this correctly, you're saying that "the contraction" of the obliques...will pull or "rotate" the hips out of their "leveraged"/coiled "back" position? Or IOWs, the obliques ("core" as some say) are pulling on the hips from the top down?
You mean like all of these swings where the hitters are simply using their "obliques (core)" to just drag their rear hip forward, and not get any use out of it and/or their legs....Yep, the obliques (core) are pulling tugging the hands to swing down and the hips may or may not rotate in response (hips are reactive)..
That "rotation" or "jut" was the rear leg rotating or jutting the rear pelvis forward, but not if the hitter is using the front leg/hip to simply pull the rest of the pelvis forward on top of itself...which in that case would be "IR" of the lead leg/hip.
Do you have a video of this. I am not understanding directions. Highlighted above seem to contradict. twist vs towards and away. I tried and picture myself thrusting forward and back. is that what you mean?Wanna know for sure what moves what, and in what order, and not just "feel" what you "think" the earth is off past the horizon?
Stand in front of a mirror so you can watch you belly button (the area under the ribs and above the hip bone), and standing with your feet shoulder width apart (or slight wider, whichever's more comfortable), and your arm/hands just hanging at your sides (you're not going to need/use them)....
1.) Using just your legs, twist your pelvic girdle (some call that their "hips) front to back, side to side, front to rear - whatever words work to move the iliac crests of the PG towards the mirror and away from it....but don't move your belly button at all. Are you able to accomplish that, or does your belly button just move regardless of you trying to prevent it from doing so?
2.) Using just your belly button (oh OK, even body parts above it if you'd like)....twist your pelvic girdle (some call that their "hips) front to back, side to side, front to rear - whatever words work to move the iliac crests of the PG towards the mirror and away from it...but don't move your legs at all. Are you able to accomplish that, or does your belly button (and PG) not move if you don't move your legs?
That's it...EZ-PZ test you can do yourself, and with hitting students so they can actually "feel" anatomically what moves what in the body.
'Human car tires have motors'?Human car tires (legs) have motors (and they happen to be the strongest motors in the human body)
Dead lift is the strongest move a human can do and uses legs and hip extension. Quad, glute and hamstring engines.
Is there a oblique lift or a situp max weight competition?