Attack Angle

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May 12, 2016
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Sometimes find my DD does not maintain an attack angle as she strides out.. sometimes she doesn't even create 1, lol. 1st question, what creates the attack angle(downward slant of from rear to front shoulder)? Is it the contraction/engagement of the front side oblique? Also, sometimes she doesn't show the numbers. Wondering if the combination is robbing her of a great deal of power, resulting in less flight distance? I know there are other factors as well.
 
Oct 13, 2014
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South Cali
Hip hinge and coil around your rear leg will bring your front shoulder down and in naturally (without having to fake it via obliques, shoulders, etc).

Not without resistance it won’t. Without it you will be faking it with a coil and a hip hinge.Front shoulder is reactive to a good negative move. Obliques are reactive as well. Coil should be a result.
 
Mar 23, 2011
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Noblseville, IN
Not without resistance it won’t. Without it you will be faking it with a coil and a hip hinge.Front shoulder is reactive to a good negative move. Obliques are reactive as well. Coil should be a result.
Not sure what you are talking about. You don't resist coiling in you loading movement when the front shoulder goes down and in. Resisting is what you do as you swing.

Keeping it simple, if you stand vertical and coil your rear hip, your shoulders will turn parallel to the ground. If you hip hinge and coil, your shoulders turn in a plane parallel to the hip plane and thus the front shoulder will go down and in.

The term "negative move" is too subjective. You can have a negative move and zero coil. Lots of people think they have great back-then-forward negative moves.
 
Oct 13, 2014
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South Cali
Not sure what you are talking about. You don't resist coiling in you loading movement when the front shoulder goes down and in. Resisting is what you do as you swing.

Keeping it simple, if you stand vertical and coil your rear hip, your shoulders will turn parallel to the ground. If you hip hinge and coil, your shoulders turn in a plane parallel to the hip plane and thus the front shoulder will go down and in.

The term "negative move" is too subjective. You can have a negative move and zero coil. Lots of people think they have great back-then-forward negative moves.

I will find the clip later. But the Braden Bishop tutorial is how you create a load. Coil isn’t a thing pro hitters do to start their move. Ted has said it in his book. Coil should be reactive after the negative move. Maintaining(resisting) a position creates the front shoulder down and in.
 
Apr 2, 2015
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Woodstock, man
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Hitters coil their hips and shoulders inward 40-45 degrees (around their spine) as they stride forward. (Some are 'pre-coiled' and maintain the coil)

It's easier just to think about simply turning the hip and shoulder. I have tried the 'crimp the hip', 'sitting' and other cues and they don't work as well - you can crimp and not coil, you can crimp and coil outward also.
 

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