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You know what that does? Gets them to stop thinking so much…
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Same girl and yes its a machine.. She never stopped being an athlete but maybe thats not a check point for you.
I like the second swing better.
One day I was watching something on baseball and a young Rafeal Palmeiro came up to bat. This was before the toe tap and smooth swing. He was trying to do everything at release, very quick jumping at the ball. Completely different then after starting early with a toe tap.
Of course he was juiced. But, his swing was smooth. Very different.
Of course he was juiced. But, his swing was smooth. Very different.
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Thanks for good write up. It's not really to far off from where my views are. Question: when you said previously that the hands are directing to a location, when does that occur? Is it in conjunction with the body or is it at a later time?Sorry for the delay. It's a beautiful day here in PA so I figured I would take advantage of the nice weather and cut my lawn...
First of all, before we discuss launching the barrel, I believe it is important to first discuss how we get there...
As Donaldson makes his forward move, I would like to point out two things. 1) Notice how the pelvic girdle turns. almost as if he is opening up towards the pitcher. 2) Also notice his rear arm going back, sort of towards where the dugout would be behind him. In my opinion all good hitters have a combination of these two moves to some degree. Some will have more of one. Some will have more of the other. Much of that will depend on the hitter's personal range of motion. In any event, the hitter is getting to "max stretch" at this point. There is a stretch starting in his hips, going through his core, and ultimately concluding in his back (scap area). Some people will focus more on what's referred to as the "SCIP axis", which is primarily a rear-legged type stretch, starting in the rear hip/upper leg and ending in the rear scap. Some will include the entire core and/or torso when they discuss this. I really don't have an issue with either adaptation, as I believe if you get into this type of pass through position prior to launch, what muscles are and are not involved doesn't seem that important to me. Ultimately this would be what I consider the launch position. Honestly, the clip may need another frame or so...
This popular clip of Manny is showing the same thing in my opinion. Lower half and upper half being stretched against each other. Pelvic girdle turning some. Scap activating...
At launch, the body works in unison to deliver the barrel to the ball. The rear elbow drops while the barrel simultaneously begins to turn. If you want to say the hands are turning it, that's fine. If you want to say the scap is lowering the arm while the hands maintain the hinge angle, that's fine too. As with most other concepts, hinge angle has been beaten to death because of people's tendency to over exaggerate things. Anyway, as the rear elbow is dropping the front arm will typically maintain it's distance from the chest. This process essentially creates the arc that I am referring to.
JMO / YMMV
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What does is matter what the front leg does if your back pocket is turned toward the pitcher and your sitting 
on the stool? Pre coiled.
Oh, the hips aren’t level during the stride. You see this in fastpitch more often then baseball.
on the stool? Pre coiled.
Oh, the hips aren’t level during the stride. You see this in fastpitch more often then baseball.
What does is matter what the front leg does if your back pocket is turned toward the pitcher and your sitting
Oh, the hips aren’t level during the stride. You see this in fastpitch more often then baseball.
compare this to the other softball hitter you posted earlier. And to Jennings. Very different.
the hips are leverage/stretched very early. That’s not hip coil your seeing, that’s core stretch. If that makes sense.
HR center, change on the outside corner. I think she knew it was a change because the pitcher was throwing it to much.
She lifts the COG like Bagwell out of a deep flexion while still sitting on the stool. Bagwell would stride backwards while lifting the COG because he was so deep and wide.
She lifts the COG like Bagwell out of a deep flexion while still sitting on the stool. Bagwell would stride backwards while lifting the COG because he was so deep and wide.
I think a hitter can be pre coiled as well. It looks like she lifts the front foot and gets on the stool with her $ss.
I’m not saying what you mentioned doesn’t have merit.
W=W
We often say hip coil, but the coil involves the entire body. For example if we screw the back foot into the ground the coil is felt through the leg as well as the hips. There is coil above the hips as well.
We often say hip coil, but the coil involves the entire body. For example if we screw the back foot into the ground the coil is felt through the leg as well as the hips. There is coil above the hips as well.
