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Nov 9, 2015
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Actually, I like what you're describing, because I think it illustrates the two different movement patterns. So I'm going to respond your comments/questions using your boxing example so-to-speak (I know you didn't and wouldn't actually punch you DD like I'm going to describe or ask).
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Thank you for the detailed reply. When i get a chance i will test what you are saying and will come back with a response.
 
Apr 20, 2018
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It's just a tug-of-war drill - and a pretty good drill for sure - so a towel or a piece of rope works just fine also, and both are much easier to hold and get the same results/feel you're looking for.
I have DD get into a launch position. Just prior to heel plant. Hands back, numbers to the pitcher, scap loaded. Tell her heel down and slot elbow then I step in and hold her by the shoulders/ deltoids and have her try to turn the whole shoulder chassis as a unit. I don't want her pulling with the arms. It is sort of an isometric exercise. The muscle that burn are the ones you use.
 
Apr 11, 2015
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Thank you for the detailed reply. When i get a chance i will test what you are saying and will come back with a response.
While you're testing, try to feel the rear hip directing/leading the punch. Similar to how MT uses his to direct/lead his punches to two different locations on his opponents...
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Hopefully you can see the difference of one pulling the arm/hand from the bottom/"ground up", and the other taking the rear hip over the top to what would have been a "swing down" if his opponent's head hadn't got in the way, and he had continued it forward. 🙂
 
Apr 20, 2018
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While you're testing, try to feel the rear hip directing/leading the punch. Similar to how MT uses his to direct/lead his punches to two different locations on his opponents...
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tenor.gif

Hopefully you can see the difference of one pulling the arm/hand from the bottom/"ground up", and the other taking the rear hip over the top to what would have been a "swing down" if his opponent's head hadn't got in the way, and he had continued it forward. 🙂
The uppercut is one legged and the overhand is two legged???
 
Apr 20, 2018
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I didn’t ask. But ok. Why is it stupid? Do you think its hindering his swing? Do you think it looks like or comes close to what Yelich did with Bonds?


The instagram asked. Sorry. I guess it is OK for eye hand coordination. I know the arms and hands play a role in the swing but I find most younger females hitters use their arms and hands too much and frail at the ball. Instead they generally need to learn how to use their core. So if I saw a hitting coach using this drill with a 10 or 12 y/o girl I would think the parents are lighting their money on fire. LOL
 
May 3, 2014
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Soooo, i have a question. In working with my DD i have tried to get her to feel her core, and with that the obliques and abs (to a lesser degree). So i pretend i am going to punch her in the side and have her scrunch up. I feel the oblique crunch 'launches' the swing and starts the turn around the spine. This is to limit the 'armsy' swing my DD had/has. It is more scrunch i feel to get more tilt and more around - like twisting, on the higher pitches, less tilt.

I have recently tried to feel hip extension thru glute and hammy actions based on info i got from my DD's strength and conditioning coach. But when i see someone like Miggy have a relatively 'dead leg' and more of an anchor, i cannot see how the rear leg propels or drives anything. I can see where it is used as a 'mover' (as you called it) but more just as a carrier to get the body out where it needs to go. Less so on a no stride swing.

So i am of the mind the obliques do a lot. Maybe i missed your describing something different. So apologies if i am off base. Thanks in advance.
I wanted to expand on this.

As I said, the rear leg does not propel anything in a direct way. It looks like "dead leg" but it is reactively doing something. And that thing is to basically hold it's ground. As the pelvis moves forward it does not try to turn with the pelvis. Eventually the hip joint will reach extension and the leg will then get snapped through.

The hip joint has to get open. Then it gets snapped shut or closed.

At the pause Bustos rear hip joint is open (extension)

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One guy pushes/turns his rear leg - the other doesn't

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