I guess it is my turn, my DD. Have at it so we can improve. 12 YO

[clemenslee1]

Lol..we are going in circles here. I already went over that.

I think he is going to say balance lol.

 

[Work=wins]

I think he is going to say balance lol.

Even though this seems like a wise crack. It is very fundamental. Balance affects the entire swing. Without it... band aids are applied and reapplied to various parts of the swing sequence to mask poor balance. Eventually trying everything in the book to fix a swing sequence that just lacked balance/dynamic balance.

If one cannot cover the entire strike zone. Balance is the first place one should look.

 

[DrRiello]

Am I incorrect by saying at toe touch the hips and shoulders should be level to the ground. ? And if that’s the case if they are not level wouldn’t there be a balance issue? Most of you guys have seen my dd in the beginning with a reach step and sitting back in the rear leg causing imbalance , dropping of the hands and opening of the left shoulder etc. after fixing the reach step and a few others she has improved exponentially.
This dd definitely reach steps but also makes ground at the end but her shoulders and hips are not balanced at plant. Why that is I’m not sure but that to me seems to be a big issue. IMHO. I’m more of a pitching guy so I may be way off here. Thanks guys.


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[clemenslee1]

Even though this seems like a wise crack. It is very fundamental. Balance affects the entire swing. Without it... band aids are applied and reapplied to various parts of the swing sequence to mask poor balance. Eventually trying everything in the book to fix a swing sequence that just lacked balance/dynamic balance.

If one cannot cover the entire strike zone. Balance is the first place one should look.

My comment was all in good fun. You and Pattar's back and forth reminded me of our last dialogue.

 

[james27503]

I get what you are saying W=w. A reach in itself is not bad. It is only bad if it causes you to lose balance. TM says that the way to maintain balance on a move out is the action of pulling back with the upper body. Lower body gains ground, upper body keeps balance by countering the lower half. This creates a stretch and when time to fire a slingshot effect that powers the swing occurs.

During the gather and into the stride phase the energy is being gathered from the ground. The only way to gather this energy effectively is to maintain balance. Any loss of balance creates a inefficient medium of power. Once that power has been harnessed effectively the bat can be unloaded.

Since the firing of a balanced top half against a balanced bottom half the bottom half must resist to maintain balance. The straight front knee.

I am going to emphasize to her the feeling of being balanced throughout the swing.

I think we made some good gains in achieving better balance in the second clip. Your thoughts?

 

[_MIA_]

Even though this seems like a wise crack. It is very fundamental. Balance affects the entire swing.

Agree. But you would agree just telling a kid that you need to make sure you are dynamically balanced, e.g. balanced throughout your swing sequence, isn't really helpful for kids who in fact have an imbalanced move out ingrained in their pattern. To them that feels correct. In fact you might as well just tell a kid you need to hit well Being balanced is a result of proper movement.

While it may seem that a hitter would seek movement which keeps them balanced, this requires some level of body awareness. When kids start to hit, e.g. at a younger age, they may not have a sufficient amount of this in order for them to develop naturally into a balanced movement pattern and hence bad movement patterns may become ingrained. Now you might say that kids inherently know what is balanced and what isn't as they learn this when they learn to walk. However in that case there are no external factors (such as a moving ball coming at them).

As they get older, and develop more body awareness, kids may naturally evolve to balanced movements or they may not. In reality in kids who actually hit a lot (e.g. my kid) at a younger age, it may actually be more difficult for this to happen (since the pattern has been ingrained over a large amount of reps) and instead more intervention may be necessary. Not sure, just thinking out loud here

 

[clemenslee1]

Agree. But you would agree just telling a kid that you need to make sure you are dynamically balanced, e.g. balanced throughout your swing sequence, isn't really helpful for kids who in fact have an imbalanced move out ingrained in their pattern. To them that feels correct. In fact you might as well just tell a kid you need to hit well Being balanced is a result of proper movement.

While it may seem that a hitter would seek movement which keeps them balanced, this requires some level of body awareness. When kids start to hit, e.g. at a younger age, they may not have a sufficient amount of this in order for them to develop naturally into a balanced movement pattern and hence bad movement patterns may become ingrained. As they get older, and develop more body awareness, they may naturally evolve to balanced movements or they may not. In reality in kids who actually hit a lot (e.g. my kid) at a younger age, it may actually be more difficult for this to happen (since the pattern has been ingrained over a large amount of reps) and instead more intervention may be necessary.

Pattar you are making the same statements almost verbatim I'm my conversation with Ww

 

[_MIA_]

Pattar you are making the same statements almost verbatim I'm my conversation with Ww

I swear I am not plagiarizing..

 

[TDS]

I would spend sometime working on pre-swing actions that will allow them to get into a dynamic fyb leveraged hitting position like Carp, with no ball.. Once they are in the position grab there hands and barrel and have them work on contracting the core (ballistic) move. Once they own the movement (May take many days) then throw in a ball.. They should be able to tell by feel if they were able to get into the position before whipping the barrel if they own it..

 

[_MIA_]

Took the tips, did some work. It is like eating an elephant though. One bite at a time.



Still seeing her back toe leak out to duck status. Corrected in the beginning but it worked its way out. Means the load is working right by pulling the front toes back but got to keep them straight so as not to the lose the energy generated. Tee may have been a bit inside, I see her adjusting her front arm down a bit more to stay inside.

Really tried working on the downward shoulder angle at load and into the move out. Worked on gaining some ground on the move out while still maintaining balance and weight in the rear leg.

Was her move out off the tee the same (or similar) to her live ball swing before your work last night because it is better in the recent tee swing.