Anyone have a good video of a real crow hop?
Look up videos of male pitchers, particularly Adam Folkard to see a true replant. You'll also notice the tell-tale arm circle hitch.
Here's a good one:
Anyone have a good video of a real crow hop?
Definitely a leap and not a crow-hop. It also didn't affect the outcome of the game in any way.
Oh yes. My comment about losing by one was a side note, sort of. Our team played very well this game. She leaped every pitch. She is considered a top pitcher in our area, so one would think mechanics would be very sharp. It wasn’t a one time deal. The video is poor quality, but I spotted it with the naked eye. I’m not an expert, but I knew what she was doing was different, which is why I videoed. Just a bit frustrating when I’m trying to help my own DD and she sees this and views it as unfair and our hands are tied. If it’s going to be a no call, then why not teach girls to leap, crow hop, etc?My belief as well.
A crow-hop or replant is getting that back foot down so you can push off it again, but this time closer to the mound.
The girl in the video isn't doing that. What she's doing is simply doing her drag a little above the ground. She's not gaining any advantage at all.
Part of the reason this isn't called is because we all so often play at fields with dips, divots, holes, and outright craters around the pitching mound. We simply can't/shouldn't/won't expect the pictures to drag their back foot across all of that and keep contact with the ground at all times.
Bummer you lost though. I'd look to defensive mistakes and lack of hitting as the culprits, as that's what it often is.
Oh yes. My comment about losing by one was a side note, sort of. Our team played very well this game. She leaped every pitch. She is considered a top pitcher in our area, so one would think mechanics would be very sharp. It wasn’t a one time deal. The video is poor quality, but I spotted it with the naked eye. I’m not an expert, but I knew what she was doing was different, which is why I videoed. Just a bit frustrating when I’m trying to help my own DD and she sees this and views it as unfair and our hands are tied. If it’s going to be a no call, then why not teach girls to leap, crow hop, etc?
I think speed and location mainly. But, our bats hit her a good number of times, which is surprising, because we are struggling with the bats. And she’s just looks very athletic. She is athletic for sure. I guess it’s her look and her speed. She has very good defense behind her, as well. She’s maybe hitting double nickels. Most in this area are 50-52. Our part of the state is not super competitive. Don’t get me wrong, we have players in the area that have occasionally gone D1, D2.In my short coaching career, I've mostly come to terms with illegal pitches and told my team and parents that we need to hit all pitchers, not have the umps save us. Yes, it's frustrating but if I don't feel the pitcher is getting an advantage, I'm not going to fight it.
So what made this pitcher good? Speed? Location? Spin?
Anyone have a good video of a real crow hop?
Here's one that fueled the 97-page Barnhill thread.
Monica Abbot also takes a good 6-8 inch step off the rubber and pushes from there...is that also considered a crow hop?
That is 100% a crow hop/replant. ...
... If an umpire says it's difficult to see if a pitch is illegal, they are either not watching the right thing or lying.