Alabama using the down to it and through it tees? wth?

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Jun 17, 2009
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Could never understand hitting coaches and drills that promote hitting down on the ball unless you are teaching slapping techniques. The visual cue is the more like the Nike swoosh, but tilted slightly. The bat parh to create the swoosh would never work with this tee.

To Pujols, this action here .....

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Has a feel of this action here ......

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Jun 17, 2009
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Portland, OR
RHC, Do you consider this (Cabrera) dumping? If not, what would Cabrera need to do (at the very least) to turn his swing into a dump?

Cabrera is not 'dumping' the barrel in this clip.

An over enphasis of the early bottom hand action can lead to dumping the barrel. If you understand the coupling of the hands at swing initiation, take a swing with an over emphasis of the bottom hand and under emphasis of the top hand ..... the feel of the bat head dumping action will be unmistakable.
 
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Jun 17, 2009
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Portland, OR
Make no mistake about it ...... this is *PUSH* and not *RELEASE*. It is PUSH replacing/bypassing what should be RELEASE.

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Notice how Pujols speaks of *RELEASE*.



To me, the RELEASE is the most enjoyable portion of the swing ..... can't imagine purposely bypassing such a great feel.
 

Howe

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Aug 28, 2013
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Make no mistake about it ...... this is *PUSH* and not *RELEASE*. It is PUSH replacing/bypassing what should be RELEASE.

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Notice how Pujols speaks of *RELEASE*.



To me, the RELEASE is the most enjoyable portion of the swing ..... can't imagine purposely bypassing such a great feel.

Very nice Five! I'll be borrowing that one. ;)

And of course the barrel launch deniers will be crying foul.
 
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redhotcoach

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May 8, 2009
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Imo, that's not at all a drastic angle of "down to". In fact you would have to REALLY be under the ball to hit that bar.

Read what I said! Did I ever say I like the Bama girls swing? Did I say anything about swinging down through? Did I say the Bama girls are swinging the same Manny? No, no, and no.
 

rdbass

It wasn't me.
Jun 5, 2010
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Not here.
And of course the barrel launch deniers will be crying foul.
Never denied 'barrel launch'.
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This is/was your launch:
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So, now the 'launch' is the 'release'? You may have said that/this 'release'/'launch' I honestly don't remember and don't/didn't want to go through all the threads.
I don't disagree with these hitting 'positions' and believe all hitters need to get to/through ect...these positions.
So, I won't cry foul. No sir,not me:(:p
 
Jun 17, 2009
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Never denied 'barrel launch'.
MohawkDirectLoad.gif

This is/was your launch:
MohawkLaunch.gif

So, now the 'launch' is the 'release'? You may have said that/this 'release'/'launch' I honestly don't remember and don't/didn't want to go through all the threads.
I don't disagree with these hitting 'positions' and believe all hitters need to get to/through ect...these positions.
So, I won't cry foul. No sir,not me:(:p

Where have you been? Howe's 'launch' has always been the 'release'.
 
Jun 18, 2012
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Utah
Never denied 'barrel launch'.
MohawkDirectLoad.gif

This is/was your launch:
MohawkLaunch.gif

So, now the 'launch' is the 'release'? You may have said that/this 'release'/'launch' I honestly don't remember and don't/didn't want to go through all the threads.
I don't disagree with these hitting 'positions' and believe all hitters need to get to/through ect...these positions.
So, I won't cry foul. No sir,not me:(:p

Then there are those who think doing that with the back elbow (first clip) is a serious sin..... a sin requiring days and days of repenting.
 

Howe

Blowhard in training
Aug 28, 2013
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Never denied 'barrel launch'.
MohawkDirectLoad.gif

This is/was your launch:
MohawkLaunch.gif

So, now the 'launch' is the 'release'? You may have said that/this 'release'/'launch' I honestly don't remember and don't/didn't want to go through all the threads.
I don't disagree with these hitting 'positions' and believe all hitters need to get to/through ect...these positions.
So, I won't cry foul. No sir,not me:(:p
bass, that wasn't directed toward anyone here. it was a dig at the "whip drill".

RHC, IMO you are on the money with regards to the benefit of this drill. Live arm and games speed will yield a different hand and barrel path, but it's a better swing thought - staying above the ball - and produces more squared up balls.

One other thing. Many use the hands/barrel interchangeably when discussing "swinging" up/down. The hands should come down to a slot and then extend level. While that is happening, the barrel should/usually continues down to the ball (remember the hands are above the ball). The barrel bottoms out and then ascends. The ascension is usually only a couple of frames compared to many downward barrel moving frames. Is there any wonder why ML think they swing down? Unfortunately, folks on the boards have focused on the few frames of ascension, and they have made a cottage industry of it. Been like that for years. I like where RHC is going with this. It's not popular, but it is correct.
 
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