Rose olored Glasses and The Elephant in the Room

[redhotcoach]

Again, I'm a little confused. I thought I answered the question when I said 3 of the hitters shifted and slide the rear hip. When you presented 4 Pro, out of the 4 I thought Craig was a "scooper". I would translate that to be a manifestation of "shifting and sliding" the rear hip.

I'm glad you've found interest in my ideas.

Ok fair enough.

Welcome to dfp.

 

[rdbass]

Sorry, I should have taken my meds.

Take your 'little blue pill' that may help you think really 'hard'. See what I did there?
I just asked what a SCOOPER was? That is not a term I've heard before.
Should I go to BBD and ask that question? Wink wink...

 

[Howe]

Not true.

It is true. The amount of shoulder tilt vs. the hand flattening process is not directly proportionate. Which would mean that there is a degree of pronation/supination involved in the equation. Now, you have always held yourself up as a scientific analyst. But you don't get to pick and choose which movements are absolutes and which are "close".

 

[Howe]

Take your 'little blue pill' that may help you think really 'hard'. See what I did there?
I just asked what a SCOOPER was? That is not a term I've heard before.
Should I go to BBD and ask that question? Wink wink...

Wink wink? Little blue pill? HEY, I don't go that way! Not that there's anything wrong with that sorta thing....

 

[jbooth]

What is the difference between MLB quality and having the same fundamental bio mechanics? I will tell you - retired players....your swing qualifies as neither even though you pretend it is. Geez, you can't take a swing without your front elbow collpasing and your front hip from spinning out early and you believe you are doing the same bio mechanical thing as Bonds?

And the front forearm is imparting force by pronating while the rear one supinates. These for most part cancel each other out and create the early rearward barrel turn that is not present in your swing but is in Upton's...so how can you both be doing the same bio mechanical thing and totally different moves?

OK, I'm too frustrated at this point.

Provide some facts. I'm tired of giving them, just to have you ignore them, because you're locked into your beliefs.

 

[jbooth]

It is true. The amount of shoulder tilt vs. the hand flattening process is not directly proportionate. Which would mean that there is a degree of pronation/supination involved in the equation. Now, you have always held yourself up as a scientific analyst. But you don't get to pick and choose which movements are absolutes and which are "close".

I said there was some supination, late, and I stand by that. Supination of the top hand is not the driving force, and it doesn't happen early.

What am I picking and choosing?

 

[RayR]

Then give up. Your swing doesn't pass the test. Explain why your front arm collapses aside from you waiting for your tilt and turn to move the barrel and it gets tired...

OK, I'm too frustrated at this point.

Provide some facts. I'm tired of giving them, just to have you ignore them, because you're locked into your beliefs.

 

[Howe]

I said there was some supination, late, and I stand by that. Supination of the top hand is not the driving force, and it doesn't happen early.

What am I picking and choosing?

Stand straight up, hold your bottom hand perp to the ground. Your bottom hand is 90 degrees to your shoulders. Without doing anything to your hand, move your shoulders so you can get your hand flat. Make sure you have your medic alert chain around your neck first... LOL only kidding

 

[redhotcoach]

Stand straight up, hold your bottom hand perp to the ground. Your bottom hand is 90 degrees to your shoulders. Without doing anything to your hand, move your shoulders so you can get your hand flat. Make sure you have your medic alert chain around your neck first... LOL only kidding

Warn me before you say things like that!!!!

 

[Howe]

jb,
You used to be an Epstein guy long ago. You don't subscribe to this anymore?