Tim wasn't the kid that did all the damage for Uof L 5' 2" ? I know they had a bunch of players under 5' 5" I think my dd counted 11, made her feel good.
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I'll go ahead and commit what to many here, if not most, will consider blasphemy.
I think the hip coil is over-emphasized with young kids. People get obsessed with building a swing "from the ground" up. I feel there is very often, lower, more easily reached "fruit" to grab at when improving a young swing.
Sometimes I even feel people will be obsessed with hip coil because they think it makes them sound like they know what they are talking about, and that it will make their arguments unassailable.
I believe the Science of Hitting has something to do with it. Much of TSoH was written for at the very least a very gifted teen, if not a minor leaguer, trying to become a great hitter.
Yes absolutely hip coil is critical for an advanced swing. It is not critical for a young player. My DD has had outstanding results hitting in TB and we haven't even gotten around to fine-tuning the swing like that.
Size can make a big difference,if not then why are all the supposed good pitchers tall or big or both?Like I said that I knew that I was going to ruffle some feathers about what I said about CB , it is not meant as a put down , she is and was a awesome hitter.But you can get away with some flaws ,when you have more then normal strenghty.I have seen some really good hitters that have worked with Howard and CB,but also have seen some that are not good hitters, and have seen hitters just as good or better then ones that have worked with Howard & CB and some that are worse.I have seen your videos of your dd she is awesome,but that doesnt mean that there are other girls that are the same as her and learned from someone else.The video thing really isnt meant for you or SL anyways.
nanotech14,
"POST SOME VIDEO OF YOUR STUDENTS OR DAUGHTERS MORE and LET US DECIDE!!!"
You will get blood from a turnip first!!! It's easy to talk a big game but when it comes down to it some fail miserably. Everyone knows who posts of there students or own DD and who doesn't.
you dont know how to read do you!!! I was talking about how these guys go back in forth about this and that ,so why dont you quit trying to talk a big game and go back to OFC ,with the good old boys.I by the way am not a Hitting inst. and my dd is on here go look it up and pull your head out of your tin can,Iam just a parent just like most of the people on here just looking for good advice.By the way I did say that SL and Bouldersdad have video on here,boy you Ohio people stick together.
Nanotech14,
None of my business,but I think fourts was agreeing with you?
I eat frosted flakes,and yes I was in a bad mood.sorrySomebody most of pi**ed in nano's Wheaties! I'm also thinking I have a stockier.
best place to learn hip coil is learning a good overhand throw.
I like a lot of the Hodge info for that for how upper body participates, avoiding premature external rotation of throwing arm, but also emphasis on getting/keeping lead arm INternally rotated.
Wolforth info is good, especially backward shaping drills.
Jaeger long toss is good.
The overhand throw arm action provides the right kind of uninterrupted resistance the hip and rear leg need to learn to support.
You have to wonder how well someone understands what a hip coil is, when they say that Jeter has a pronounced hip coil. I can't think of any MLB player that has a pronounced hip coil, or does anything other than the same basic action that the girls above do.
Wellphyt..... no MLB player with a big hip coil????
Here is Jeter
Teach this hip coil to a girl and see if she keeps her shoulders straight....
Your missing my point....
SL