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rdbass

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I like to stress tilting away from the opposite middle infielder. A way to get a kid to accomplish this feel is to have them take a dry swing as if they were hitting a ball straight up in the air. I have also had them hit off of a really high tee. When kids do this they usually get a feeling in their back that may have never felt before. We also talk about "falling off the cliff". The feeling of their rear hip "falling behind" their femur. IMO the tilt has to be in the rear hip socket.....
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Here is a kid working on incorporating some lateral tilt into her swing...

Hope you don't mind.
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I liked this one you posted at BBD. Good example of 'tilt'.
 
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Thanks for the tilt thoughts. Excellent. Would love any further working-with-hitter thoughts....

Also: do you emphasize shoulder plane or alignment at all?....ie, attack mode rear shoulder higher to contact point rear shoulder lower? And the resultant diagonal bat angle that creates? Alongside the rear femur tilt/pivot point?
 
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Thanks for the tilt thoughts. Excellent. Would love any further working-with-hitter thoughts....

Also: do you emphasize shoulder plane or alignment at all?....ie, attack mode rear shoulder higher to contact point rear shoulder lower? And the resultant diagonal bat angle that creates? Alongside the rear femur tilt/pivot point?

Yes. We talk about the rear shoulder "working under" the front shoulder. I like to ask kids if they pop up in a game what is the first thing their coach/dad says to them? It's usually "don't drop your back shoulder". I often then show them a Kris Bryant clip. He's a clear example of the back shoulder working under.
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IMO most kids are "two legged" and their shoulders stay relatively level. Spinal axis. When teaching them to work the right shoulder under the left it is important for them to be "one legged" or then they will just be simply dropping their shoulder and prone to popping up. One leggedness allows the hitter to tilt properly and get to all pitches......
 
Sep 17, 2009
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Yes. We talk about the rear shoulder "working under" the front shoulder. I like to ask kids if they pop up in a game what is the first thing their coach/dad says to them? It's usually "don't drop your back shoulder". I often then show them a Kris Bryant clip. He's a clear example of the back shoulder working under.
8PLSwje.gif


IMO most kids are "two legged" and their shoulders stay relatively level. Spinal axis. When teaching them to work the right shoulder under the left it is important for them to be "one legged" or then they will just be simply dropping their shoulder and prone to popping up. One leggedness allows the hitter to tilt properly and get to all pitches......

Yep, this all resonates very strongly from what I see with hitters, feel myself and try to teach -- though I need some new/better/refreshed language, so thanks!

High tee is interesting. Low tee (such as Bryant's swing above) also effective I find. So many kids stop working "under" against machine/live pitching and then wonder why they aren't squaring up but are topping everything. Tilt to square the ball.

TKS.
 

Cannonball

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Yes. We talk about the rear shoulder "working under" the front shoulder. I like to ask kids if they pop up in a game what is the first thing their coach/dad says to them? It's usually "don't drop your back shoulder". I often then show them a Kris Bryant clip. He's a clear example of the back shoulder working under.
8PLSwje.gif


IMO most kids are "two legged" and their shoulders stay relatively level. Spinal axis. When teaching them to work the right shoulder under the left it is important for them to be "one legged" or then they will just be simply dropping their shoulder and prone to popping up. One leggedness allows the hitter to tilt properly and get to all pitches......

This is a nice post!
 

rdbass

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Jun 5, 2010
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Yes. We talk about the rear shoulder "working under" the front shoulder. I like to ask kids if they pop up in a game what is the first thing their coach/dad says to them? It's usually "don't drop your back shoulder". I often then show them a Kris Bryant clip. He's a clear example of the back shoulder working under.
8PLSwje.gif


IMO most kids are "two legged" and their shoulders stay relatively level. Spinal axis. When teaching them to work the right shoulder under the left it is important for them to be "one legged" or then they will just be simply dropping their shoulder and prone to popping up. One leggedness allows the hitter to tilt properly and get to all pitches......

Just adding some additional thought:
The swing drops the rear shoulder....dependent on the pitch.
 

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