Pro ball in Japan is a very different animal and at times down right weird. Be sure to smooth out the batters box after you get K'd before taking the walk of shame back to the dugout.
Rolling the Shoulder at or after release
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Pro ball in Japan is a very different animal and at times down right weird. Be sure to smooth out the batters box after you get K'd before taking the walk of shame back to the dugout.
I agree. The reason for my post is I'm concerned about her getting injured due to bad mechanics. We have enough going against us already. I figure its because she is shouldering the ball. We have been working on Brush Interference for awhile now. It will amaze me if she finally got it, high unlikely though. Last night I didn't notice if she was brushing or not. I was target fixated on the shoulder.
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Here are the videos I recorded. Posting 9 video links is probably overkill, just trying to get the most information on here so someone can help us out.
The first video was recorded back in June of this year. My untrained eyes do not see the shoulder roll I see as of late. All feedback is welcomed good or bad and thanks in advance for the help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn9HTC80dn4
Taking today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGROg_7wWys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpiDUGuRaLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lno-TtR9hDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgFjzM7H0No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxUroNJU_-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pkmP_btya4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3d_CDxb4_Q
The first video was recorded back in June of this year. My untrained eyes do not see the shoulder roll I see as of late. All feedback is welcomed good or bad and thanks in advance for the help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn9HTC80dn4
Taking today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGROg_7wWys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpiDUGuRaLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lno-TtR9hDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgFjzM7H0No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxUroNJU_-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pkmP_btya4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3d_CDxb4_Q
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Thanks for the videos.
First of all she looks pretty good for her age. Very athletic, and has a ton of potential.
As far as the "shoulder roll".... My .02
She is muscling the ball, and not using any resistance (see how she walks out of her pitches?). Notice how the torso continues to rotate throughout the entire downswing and release? Im betting she misses to the left a lot...
Secondly, she's not getting much brush contact (if any)
My suggestions:
1. Work on the push back drill to emphasize resistance, not only in the legs but in the upper body as well.
2. Keep both palms oriented upwards by 9:00, and PULL the arms down together with abs and lat muscles... this will greatly increase the brush contact.
3. Get the drag foot on the toes with shoe laces pointing towards the catcher ASAP, as this will get the hips in a better alignment to assist in brushing as well as keeping the body weight in the front side and resisting.
Good luck, James
First of all she looks pretty good for her age. Very athletic, and has a ton of potential.
As far as the "shoulder roll".... My .02
She is muscling the ball, and not using any resistance (see how she walks out of her pitches?). Notice how the torso continues to rotate throughout the entire downswing and release? Im betting she misses to the left a lot...
Secondly, she's not getting much brush contact (if any)
My suggestions:
1. Work on the push back drill to emphasize resistance, not only in the legs but in the upper body as well.
2. Keep both palms oriented upwards by 9:00, and PULL the arms down together with abs and lat muscles... this will greatly increase the brush contact.
3. Get the drag foot on the toes with shoe laces pointing towards the catcher ASAP, as this will get the hips in a better alignment to assist in brushing as well as keeping the body weight in the front side and resisting.
Good luck, James
What is the reason why my little one keeps bruising her right side around the hip area? She tells me her elbow is causing it. How do I fix this?
Its a Big bruise. She says after pitching yesterday during the tournament that she now has a new bruise on top of the old bruise.
Hopefully the videos above will help yall give us some feedback.
Thanks again for the help.
Its a Big bruise. She says after pitching yesterday during the tournament that she now has a new bruise on top of the old bruise.
Hopefully the videos above will help yall give us some feedback.
Thanks again for the help.
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My youngest dd has worked the same issue 3 times. She works to have her palm up at 9 o'clock (as she should). But when she is palm up at 9 o'clock, she runs the risk of jabbing her elbow into her side if she doesn't do it properly. Rick Pauly addresses this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBP19qvFdK0
The fix? Fortunately for you (and my dd), the lock-it-in drill is quick and easy. Works Erry time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T4Jd7GKg5Q
Warning - if your dd is like mine, she will want to abandon the lock-it-in drill after she fixes the bruising problem because "I already know how to do that". Happily, dd's 3rd injury (same cause) has motivated her to stick with it for the last couple of months.
PS - I'm confident the first 2 videos will solve the problem, but these 2 Balswick videos are so good and related to your issue that I have to link them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijHqW1ZpcV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WJ7V02T8DE
PPS - Note to self: find out how Ken B organizes his bookmarks to instantly find the video he's looking for
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Regarding bruised hips: in the two cases I've dealt with in person, one was partly due to releasing too far from the thigh and the other had over emphasized "lead with the elbow." The first was corrected by having her release closer to the thigh (the relief was instantaneous which surprised me since I'd guessed she'd need at least a week off.) The second was forcing "lead with the elbow" and forgot to keep things loose/relaxed.
I will respectfully and adamantly disagree that "palm up," when used correctly, will cause a problem. Palm up is an adder and not something to try to teach out of a kid. Find the problem and correct it.
I will respectfully and adamantly disagree that "palm up," when used correctly, will cause a problem. Palm up is an adder and not something to try to teach out of a kid. Find the problem and correct it.
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ornelas85,
Hard to tell from the videos, but I suspect she might be using a pretty straight arm, which I believe could also be a cause for pain. When there is no flexion of the elbow, you'll need to clear the hip to avoid banging it.
When you get a chance, can you take/post a couple more videos at higher settings? Better lighting might help, but it might also be the camera. If you know someone with an iPhone 6, you'll be in good shape. Make sure you not only record at the highest settings, but save/post the files at as high a setting as you can. One from behind and just to the right, and another from the side and about 6 feet ahead of the rubber.
Hard to tell from the videos, but I suspect she might be using a pretty straight arm, which I believe could also be a cause for pain. When there is no flexion of the elbow, you'll need to clear the hip to avoid banging it.
When you get a chance, can you take/post a couple more videos at higher settings? Better lighting might help, but it might also be the camera. If you know someone with an iPhone 6, you'll be in good shape. Make sure you not only record at the highest settings, but save/post the files at as high a setting as you can. One from behind and just to the right, and another from the side and about 6 feet ahead of the rubber.
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