Pitching speeds from Champions Showcase skills challenge in Marietta, GA Nov 2012

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Jul 26, 2010
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That's why people like competitive sports. There is a winner, and a looser. There is cheating, and there is not cheating. There is not a grey area.

Look, it's clear that this young lady has boatloads of talent. The point is that until she fixes her mechanics, it's meaningless. Hopefully she will fix it and go on to become a superstar.

-W
 
Jan 18, 2010
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In your face
Cheating?

That's why I don't and can't watch NBA. Traveling is rarely called and it's turned into more of old street type of game.

As long as tickets are to be sold and money is to be made.............need I say more? I don't agree with it, but it comes down to the livelihood of umps/refs and the continuation of their job and the people or person who delivers the check.
 
Dec 7, 2011
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That's why people like competitive sports. There is a winner, and a looser. There is cheating, and there is not cheating. There is not a grey area.

Look, it's clear that this young lady has boatloads of talent. The point is that until she fixes her mechanics, it's meaningless. Hopefully she will fix it and go on to become a superstar.

-W

I think you are right on here Stars.

To others - I don't think any of us here has been anything but critical to what appears to be crow-hopping from one picture. Nobody is questioning the fact that there is incedible talent involved with hurling a ball that fast. It always amazes me with people that think they have to go "in defense" of folks that are being used as talking points. I always envision folks like you as supporters of participation trophies and a ribbon of every color on your car to proclaim how much extra care and compassion you have........
 

gvm

Sep 3, 2010
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she just won the PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARD !!! so i guess alot of people are not seeing any crop hop either?
 
Jun 22, 2008
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she just won the PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARD !!! so i guess alot of people are not seeing any crop hop either?

That doesnt mean anything. Plenty of pitchers have won all kinds of awards and have been illegal. Fowler won all kinds of awards, championships etc and finally got called at the WCWS. Without seeing some decent video of her pitching there is no way of knowing what she is doing with her feet. The video that has been posted it is impossible to tell.
 

gvm

Sep 3, 2010
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That doesnt mean anything. Plenty of pitchers have won all kinds of awards and have been illegal. Fowler won all kinds of awards, championships etc and finally got called at the WCWS. Without seeing some decent video of her pitching there is no way of knowing what she is doing with her feet. The video that has been posted it is impossible to tell.
ECACTLY,but automatically she is being accused of being illegal???? and i don't know because i can't see it either? but every picture i could find? she was legal...
 
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Dec 7, 2011
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ECACTLY,but automatically she is being accused of being illegal???? and i don't know because i can't see it either? but every picture i could find? she was legal...

If you saw the original picture I posted and you can think of a way she can deliver without replanting I will PayPal ya $5.

But seriously I am willing to make a friendly wager at low stakes (since this is just based on one picture)
 

gvm

Sep 3, 2010
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If you saw the original picture I posted and you can think of a way she can deliver without replanting I will PayPal ya $5.

But seriously I am willing to make a friendly wager at low stakes (since this is just based on one picture)

on some of the pitchers i see in video. they leap off the mound and their energy carries them quiet a distance. but i think re-planting is when their push foot lands and then they push off it again? i have seen pitchers do that,but i have seen pitchers just continue their pitch without that 2nd push off? and no dought everyone can have a different opinion? but when i see a top pitcher,i try to figure out what she is doing right so i can teach that to my dd. i don't try to prove that she is cheating? so the answer is no i don't want to spend my time trying to find something wrong with this girl. i want to know what she is doing right,that makes her such a great pitcher,ok?
 

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