I am pretty happy with where my kid is at, I hope you are too. My kid turns 18 in three months and is making several official visits to D1's over the next month, one of which she will be attending next fall. She has experienced everything I talked about, and amazingly still has an arm. Humpty I may be an idiot, but I raised a pretty good pitcher and a damn good kid. What level is your kid pitching at, just out of curiosty?
Sluggers- you are quite the expert aren't you. Usually I don't argue with people on this site, because everyone here is such an expert there is obviously no other way to do things than the way you do. You know what they say arguing with fools is foolish. But I am in the mood so her I go.
"All I can say about ThatDad's post is that it is packed full of misinformation."
Really...did you read the post? I stated its MY OPINION. Based on what Ive actually seen in real life, not what some expert tells me on a message board.
"A 12YOA kid taking "ibuprofen like candy" is normal? 12YOA kids should *NOT* be regularly taking pain meds. If she requires pain meds to pitch, she has serious problems."
Ok, I may have been exaggerating a little here, but she has always carried a bottle of ibuprofen in her bag since she was 11 or twelve. She routinely is sore after two or three straight games and often takes ibuprofen. I know, I know, your kid is so mechanically perfect that she never needs an ibuprofen or aspirin. I forgot what an expert you are. Or maybe she has just never pitched three straight games.
"Again, totally wrong. Over-pitching can result in damage to the arm--specifically the long head of the bicep tendon"
Again...sluggers read my post! Never did I argue damage cant be done to the arm. My argument is YOU have no clue how much work it takes for damage to begin, and then become serious with any INDIVIDUAL. So anything you say is noting but a generalization, and I think the same of generalizations about the same I think of assumptions. You get what I am saying here?
"Again, where do you get this stuff? Most kids throw 3 to 5 times a week, generally for 60 to 90 minutes a session. Pitching a game counts toward the 3 to 5 times a week.
Generally, a kid should not pitch more than two games a day, and should take the Friday before and the Monday after a tournament off if she has thrown four or five games over the Saturday and Sunday."
Again...where do you get your stuff? This is nothing more than generalizations, refer to above statement to get a clue what I think of this drivel. Lets see 3x week for 60minutes equals 180 minutes a week, 5x week for 90minutes equals 450minutes that's quite a bit of difference. Let me ask, which one do you think will be the better pitcher. Oh..wait I forgot. Your kid will be the better pitcher. Because you know it all and the rest of us are just muddling through like fools huh?
"And parents are there to protect the child from hurting herself. There are many, many things a kid can do to become a better pitcher which do not involve pitching."
Finally something more than meaningless generalities, I am almost surprised coming from you. The whole gist of my post was exactly this. It is the Parents responsibility to take care of their OWN kids. Not some near do well that THINKS they know what's best for someone else's kid.
Well...unless you know everything like Sluggers seems to THINK he does. Then I guess you can puff up your chest and go around telling everyone how foolish they are.
SouthPawCoach, I am in no way attacking or belittling you. I simply wanted to give the other side of the story, I think you got it? Unlike some others obviously. But then again I must just not be smart enough, so maybe you should listen to sluggers he knows it all. Just ask him!
Sluggers- you are quite the expert aren't you. Usually I don't argue with people on this site, because everyone here is such an expert there is obviously no other way to do things than the way you do. You know what they say arguing with fools is foolish. But I am in the mood so her I go.
"All I can say about ThatDad's post is that it is packed full of misinformation."
Really...did you read the post? I stated its MY OPINION. Based on what Ive actually seen in real life, not what some expert tells me on a message board.
"A 12YOA kid taking "ibuprofen like candy" is normal? 12YOA kids should *NOT* be regularly taking pain meds. If she requires pain meds to pitch, she has serious problems."
Ok, I may have been exaggerating a little here, but she has always carried a bottle of ibuprofen in her bag since she was 11 or twelve. She routinely is sore after two or three straight games and often takes ibuprofen. I know, I know, your kid is so mechanically perfect that she never needs an ibuprofen or aspirin. I forgot what an expert you are. Or maybe she has just never pitched three straight games.
"Again, totally wrong. Over-pitching can result in damage to the arm--specifically the long head of the bicep tendon"
Again...sluggers read my post! Never did I argue damage cant be done to the arm. My argument is YOU have no clue how much work it takes for damage to begin, and then become serious with any INDIVIDUAL. So anything you say is noting but a generalization, and I think the same of generalizations about the same I think of assumptions. You get what I am saying here?
"Again, where do you get this stuff? Most kids throw 3 to 5 times a week, generally for 60 to 90 minutes a session. Pitching a game counts toward the 3 to 5 times a week.
Generally, a kid should not pitch more than two games a day, and should take the Friday before and the Monday after a tournament off if she has thrown four or five games over the Saturday and Sunday."
Again...where do you get your stuff? This is nothing more than generalizations, refer to above statement to get a clue what I think of this drivel. Lets see 3x week for 60minutes equals 180 minutes a week, 5x week for 90minutes equals 450minutes that's quite a bit of difference. Let me ask, which one do you think will be the better pitcher. Oh..wait I forgot. Your kid will be the better pitcher. Because you know it all and the rest of us are just muddling through like fools huh?
"And parents are there to protect the child from hurting herself. There are many, many things a kid can do to become a better pitcher which do not involve pitching."
Finally something more than meaningless generalities, I am almost surprised coming from you. The whole gist of my post was exactly this. It is the Parents responsibility to take care of their OWN kids. Not some near do well that THINKS they know what's best for someone else's kid.
Well...unless you know everything like Sluggers seems to THINK he does. Then I guess you can puff up your chest and go around telling everyone how foolish they are.
SouthPawCoach, I am in no way attacking or belittling you. I simply wanted to give the other side of the story, I think you got it? Unlike some others obviously. But then again I must just not be smart enough, so maybe you should listen to sluggers he knows it all. Just ask him!
