I enjoy coming to this board and reading the threads. I once said, " I used to come here to learn something but now I just come here to watch BM and Hal go at it". I do get a kick out of those two firing back at one another. Now that being said, I think Bill had every right to be offended and I respect that he has chosen to clear the air put things to rest. I feel that this forum is a better place with both BM and Bill posting and do not see the need to argue what each have done. Both are talented pitching coaches. Bill puts things in as simple as they can so that most anyone can understand what he is teaching. I think many would agree that BM using the entire English language to explain his methods. I have to read his post over and over to grasp what he is saying. I hope that both are not left a little gun shy and continue doing what they are doing and maybe now they will each have a better understanding of one another.