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Lily 10U - Advice/help with crowhop

Nov 30, 2018
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I am looking for some advice on my DD’s slight crowhop that she has developed. Why it may be happening and suggestions on how to fix it. Thanks in advance.

I will say only one slight thing that hurts her drive a little. Her back foot is actually too far back. Four to six inches behind the rubber would be fine. When she leans her CHEST should be over her front knee, and knee bent! It will give her more push/speed off the rubber, but I see no crow-hop and very little leap. The leap is defined as the foot leaving the ground higher than that worn groove in front of the rubber. The girls can't follow every nuance of the terrain created by foot drag. When on dirt she will be fine.

Here are two fine videos by Amanda Scarborough on the pitcher's stance. I suggest you use the "start-back" form which will keep your DD in compliance with pretty much every association.

(162) 2020 New Softball Pitching Rule Changes - YouTube

(162) My Thoughts on the 2020 Pitching Rule Changes - YouTube
 

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Nov 30, 2018
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I haven’t messed with her much. She used to turn her right foot out pre-push and drag the side of the foot Like an anchor instead of the toe. She has corrected that for the most part. The slight leap started after that. One fix led to another issue.
Below is exactly what I teach in pitching, though I will probably have someone disagree. But Rebecca is my perfect example of it. You are doing great as a dad.
 

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Oct 26, 2019
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Below is exactly what I teach in pitching, though I will probably have someone disagree. But Rebecca is my perfect example of it. You are doing great as a dad.
Thanks for the input. Her PC has had her experiment with different setups and he actually brought her back foot in some close to the rubber like you suggested last session and that seemed to help. We have spent a lot of time on the arm circle and IR/brush and we are starting to tackle the drive mechanics now. One thing I am very thankful for is stumbling onto DFP before she started pitching. I feel like it saved us a lot of wasted time down dead end roads. When I see other kids being taught to throw incorrectly I am reminded of that.
 
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She is on the right track. Her release on the new video is noticeably earlier vs hanging on and pushing the ball through a late release on earlier video. Have her stabilize her right shoulder back to 45 degrees on release and it will move the release point even further back.
 
Nov 30, 2018
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Thanks for the input. Her PC has had her experiment with different setups and he actually brought her back foot in some close to the rubber like you suggested last session and that seemed to help.
First I just saw the second video. Nice! She is a natural. Generally really doing well for her age.

This photo shows the first frame in her push. As you can see her shoulders are behind her pushoff foot, instead of her chest over it. It reduces her energy, speed of her push. and is tiresome. Again, if she stands of straight and takes her sign, just touches her toe back naturally behind the rubber, I think you will see more speed and a little cleaner form. I think she is progressing in all other issues as much as one could hope for!
 

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First I just saw the second video. Nice! She is a natural. Generally really doing well for her age.

This photo shows the first frame in her push. As you can see her shoulders are behind her pushoff foot, instead of her chest over it. It reduces her energy, speed of her push. and is tiresome. Again, if she stands of straight and takes her sign, just touches her toe back naturally behind the rubber, I think you will see more speed and a little cleaner form. I think she is progressing in all other issues as much as one could hope for!
That makes a lot of sense - thanks for the breakdown. She’s a great kid who really enjoys the game. I’m just happy to share that love with her.
 
Nov 30, 2018
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That makes a lot of sense - thanks for the breakdown. She’s a great kid who really enjoys the game. I’m just happy to share that love with her.
You reflect a lot of positives rather than the typical vicarious parent. It is a simple issue, easy to fix; easier than turning the foot issue. It will create slight balance and form issues for a short time, but for the time spent will bring easy reward.

Just have her copy this photo below. Dropping the heel does not constitute a step back.
  • Stand up straight
  • The back toe is pointed into the ground while standing on/over the push foot.
  • The weight shifts back, heel goes down.
  • When the weight shifts back, with the weight shifting to the back foot, the hips are over the back foot; the stride foot is not behind the hips or the hips behind the back foot.
  • Shift forward, load the knee like a spring.
  • Chest bent forward about 30°
  • At the tipping point, push.
Savannah Lloyd was a teammate of Amanda Scarborough and has about 95 sequential trading videos. We both did pitching clinics in Croatia. She is outstanding.

 

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