FiveFrameSwing
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You could read that sentence as Bill just describing the rise in both ways (doesn't fall as much OR rises) to accommodate both viewpoints and avoid someone focusing on the language of his example (not the actual intended point about the catcher's role in managing the PU) and turning this into a does a riseball rise thread.
I personally read "or comes up" as ... "or comes up" ... which clearly doesn't happen. Bill suggests that such a pitch would fool a lot of umpires ... and it would ... as well as virtually anyone else.
Bill had some good points ... such as the importance of the wrist & fingers as they pertain to throwing a riseball ... and the importance of mastering a few pitches rather than having familiarity with several pitches.
Bill had some weak points ... such as suggesting limited value of a curveball and screwball ... and the notion that a low-level riseball can lift up into the zone from below.
The argument against throwing a strike doesn't just pertain to screwballs and curveballs.
The argument against flat-lining a pitch is sort of silly when you bring up the value of a low-level riseball in the same post.
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