Core / Hip Training

[Buttermaker]

Instead of clouding up Maddie's thread -

Core / Hip training

Clip of hip action in the swing

[video=youtube_share;2hKJ2nCfC6o]http://youtu.be/2hKJ2nCfC6o[/video]


Edit to add that many of my thoughts on this are inspired by Dr's McGill and Liebenson. Many of the exercise added to this thread are McGill's or Liebenson's.

 

[Buttermaker]

Side view

[video=youtube_share;0Hb1ibvGggg]http://youtu.be/0Hb1ibvGggg[/video]

 

[Buttermaker]

Can only post one video per post.

Both hips flex and then extend as part of the front foot landing and then moving into contact.

Training the core - improves the hips ability to function.

The core muscles are designed to prevent rotation of the spine (protect the spine from injury) so focusing on rotational movements doesn't automatically increase rotational speed. A strong and stable core allows the hips to flex/extend and transfer power through the core muscles to the shoulders and down the arms. If your core is weak or unstable - power from the hips can dissipate somewhere in the torso and not be efficiently transferred.

Basic core training

Planks - work up to 2 min
Side Planks - work up to 1:30 with perfect form
Bird Dogs
Stir the Pots
Hip Airplanes - also work the hips.

 

[Buttermaker]

Not that I am saying go out and push cars (blocking sleds will do!)

The power to push a car comes from the extension phase of the hips. How ballistic your hips can extend dictates the power you can generate. A weak lateral and longitudinal sling system will greatly diminish the power that will be transferred through the torso.

[video=youtube_share;WTTg8BMLrk8]http://youtu.be/WTTg8BMLrk8[/video]

 

[Eric F]

Instead of clouding up Maddie's thread

It's a little late for that, don't ya think?

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

Can only post one video per post.

Both hips flex and then extend as part of the front foot landing and then moving into contact.

Training the core - improves the hips ability to function.

The core muscles are designed to prevent rotation of the spine (protect the spine from injury) so focusing on rotational movements doesn't automatically increase rotational speed. A strong and stable core allows the hips to flex/extend and transfer power through the core muscles to the shoulders and down the arms. If your core is weak or unstable - power from the hips can dissipate somewhere in the torso and not be efficiently transferred.

Basic core training

Planks - work up to 2 min
Side Planks - work up to 1:30 with perfect form
Bird Dogs
Stir the Pots
Hip Airplanes - also work the hips.

I agree with the bold above .... hip flexion and extension is an important portion of the swing.

 

[Buttermaker]

It's the just normal routine with these threads.

It's a little late for that, don't ya think?

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

Side view

[video=youtube_share;0Hb1ibvGggg]http://youtu.be/0Hb1ibvGggg[/video]

A point of clarification ....

Do you view the action in the Youtube video you supplied above as the same action in TDS’s GIF below.

The GIF was from a video attempting to describe Mcllroy’s golf swing in which, IMO anyway, they didn’t quite understand the role of resistance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS8xaWleuRk). According to the presenter, what is being demonstrated in TDS’s GIF is the contraction, of the oblique abdominals, pulling both the front-side and rear-side closer. Do you believe that is what is happening in the segment of the swing you have shown above?

 

[Buttermaker]

Thanks - I worry less about the rotation of the hips and more about their ability to flex/extend. Yes, rotation is happening - but the power comes from the extension.

I agree with the bold above .... hip flexion and extension is an important portion of the swing.

 

[Buttermaker]

Yes. In the first few frames you are seeing the anterior oblique sling of the front adductors of the upper leg to the rear pectoral lengthens. That sling then shortens back to normal - rotation is blurring the look.

Another point is that the rear hip extends first as part of the rear hip pivot - it then flexes as the anterior oblique sling lengthens and then extends again going into contact.

A point of clarification ....

Do you view the action in the Youtube video you supplied above as the same action in TDS’s GIF below.

The GIF was from a video attempting to describe Mcllroy’s golf swing in which, IMO anyway, they didn’t quite understand the role of resistance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS8xaWleuRk). According to the presenter, what is being demonstrated in TDS’s GIF is the contraction, of the oblique abdominals, pulling both the front-side and rear-side closer. Do you believe that is what is happening in the segment of the swing you have shown above?